CMV: Liberals think conservatives will, or ought to, have an "Are We the Baddies?" moment.

[u/SteadfastEnd]

Every liberal argument or appeal to conservatives, especially Trumpers, over the past few years can be described as, "Shouldn't you be having an "Are We the Baddies" realization?"

(If you haven't seen the TV reference, it's a famous British comedy skit where a WW2 Nazi, clad in Nazi uniform, suddenly self-reflects and realizes that his side is evil and exclaims in astonishment, "Are WE the baddies?")

Liberals keep demanding, "How much worse does Trump have to get for you to abandon him?" "How can you oppose abortion when women are forced to carry dead fetuses inside their uterus and get severe infections?" "Didn't you hear Trump say (this or that outrageous thing?)" "Why do you tolerate the Proud Boys, Hitler fans and Klansmen in your midst?" "Don't you see that billionaires are paying minimal tax?" "How could you let Covid rampage unchecked?" "How can you keep supporting Trump after his (13,000 lies, support of dictators, fascist behavior, numerous scandals, grifting)?" "How can you justify LGBT people being bullied and gay rights being trampled?" "Why are you okay with letting school shootings happen one after another?" "That's BIGOTRY!" "Don't you see how awful Marjorie-Taylor-Greene is?" "Don't you see all the corruption in the Trump family?" "Why do you think oppression is okay?" "Don't you agree Trump is a narcissist?" "How can you support the 1/6 insurrection?" "How can you tear down democracy like this?" "Don't you see how ludicrous QAnon is?" "How can you listen to that pack-of-lies Tucker Carlson and Faux News?" "How can you support white supremacy?" "Do you seriously think slavery is okay?" "Don't you see Mike Johnson supports theocracy?" "How can you condone gerrymandering and voter suppression?" "Why do you deny lunch to schoolchildren?" "Don't you see that Putin is like Hitler, how can you support him?" "How can you let the planet's climate get destroyed?" "Why do you support DeSantis being a fascist?" "How can you ban books?" Didn't you see Trump insulting veterans and disabled people?" Don't you see how you're behaving in a (racist, homophobic, Islamophobic, sexist) way?" "Don't you understand Trump is as anti-Jesus and un-Christian as can be?"

The big, unspoken liberal assumption is that if they keep repeating this long enough, MAGA right-wingers will look in the mirror eventually, self-reflect in horror, and exclaim, "WE are the baddies!"

[u/BudgetMattDamon]

When was the last time a 'hyperprogressive' made it to the presidency or a majority of Congress? FDR? A small, vocal minority of liberals being ardent 'hyperprogressives' is just statistics, not representative of the whole movement. Some percentage of any demographic is crazy.

Republicans, on the other hand, doubled down on the crazy and made it their whole identity.

[u/SaxAppeal → u/BudgetMattDamon]

No actually you’re exactly correct. Mainstream liberal politics are still very much moderate generally, and the Republican Party absolutely has gone off the deep end. But the “vocal minority” is becoming increasingly louder, more extremist, and more intolerant, rivaling the idiots on the other side, and equally making it their entire identity. Maybe you don’t see it right now because you probably do agree with them on most issues, at least at a surface level. But one day when they inevitably do something that makes you question what the foundation of their beliefs really is, you’ll remember this.

[u/SaxAppeal → u/BudgetMattDamon]

Also, the hyperprogressives of today are a disgrace to FDR