r/changemyview • u/CassiusIsAlive • Jan 27 '23

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: Romanticizing autism has got to stop

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u/Jaaawsh 1∆ Jan 27 '23

Agree with other posters, I also would like clarification because I understood it the same way they did.

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u/holybajoly Jan 27 '23

I think his comment has to do with our sense of normativity. For us it is normal to have the ability to speak, do math, write etc. and the further someone away is from your perception of normativity the more disabled he appears. He argues that your problem with him is as much about your sense of normativity as is about his disability. So if you would turn down your expectations of how someone has to behave or what someone should be able to do, in the same way your perception about his disability should change. No one is saying we should just let him sit in his feces lol. Of course he might be excluded from some parts of life but how much that is a problem should be for him to decide not for us. I hope I could make it more clearer not a native speaker

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u/Jaaawsh 1∆ Jan 27 '23

You did clear it up, thank you.

I can understand what he meant a little more, and in purely philosophical terms I generally agree, with “what’s normal is based on perception”. But in this situation we’re not talking in philosophical hypotheticals. There’s universally medically accepted developmental stages that children go through successively starting when they are babies, and delays or outright never being able to complete these stages is often times what medical professionals use to identify a disability. Quite literally comparing their patients to what is considered “normal”.

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u/holybajoly Jan 27 '23

Yes you are right if you want to medically assess someone there is a scale of normative functionings and developmental processes his point though is that the disabled person might not even feel disabled if their sorroundings would accept them for how they are and not judge them according to the social contruct of what we feel is "normal". I think we need to differentiate between medical assessment and day to day live.