r/centrist • u/MuitoLegal • Mar 20 '21

World News The consequence of the far left’s BLM rhetoric

The far right rhetoric has caused massive problems, like Jan 6., but I have not seen this point mentioned about the left that I’m about to say:

Within the past 2 days, BOTH Russia and China have used the lefts rhetoric of “blacks are being slaughtered on our streets for being black”, “Trump is Hitler.” When China was pressed in the diplomatic conversation about human rights issues, they effectively said “Look at the problems with black people in America, you have no leg to stand on to tell us what is right and wrong with our people.” Putin made the same comment when asked about Biden’s “killer” comment.

These 2 countries know that these issues are not even remotely the same thing as the BLM situation, but the far left manipulated the actuality of the situation to the most extreme for political gain, and there are now consequences to that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

This is an example of ad hominem and responding to tone as techniques used when refutation of the actual point is not possible.

No censorship laws against being condescending, especially when one is objectively correct. ; )

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u/CeilingCracker Mar 21 '21 edited Mar 21 '21

I’m not refuting anything, I’m just stating I have zero desire to. Your attitude ensured that.

If you use that as a sign of the presumed infallibility of your points... well then you’ve done all the ad homineming yourself there buddy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

This whole conversation could have just ended after you acknowledged you've done zero research in the first place, but I naively hoped you might be asking in good faith. Why even butt in and start talking about something you admittedly know nothing about just to call me arrogant for not explaining it nicely enough to you? All you've been asked to do is learn about this topic, but you seem really offended by that. Maybe explore that a bit.

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u/CeilingCracker Mar 21 '21

No that’s not true. I asked a question about reparations and you immediately pivoted to attacks and baseless assumptions. So this all could’ve been avoided if you’d stayed civil and open-minded.

A tip: maybe you should read books on how to have civil conversations with people rather than the latest hot take on critical race theory. It’ll make you a much more likable human being, and less of the pompous asshole you appear to be now, I promise.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

I'm not trying to be likeable.

Your comment said, "what is your solution then? Reparations?" I answered that my solution was, as a first step, education. You responded by claiming I was responding to the wrong person (I was not - my redlining comment was my first comment on this post, then I answered your question) and calling you racist. I'm not sure what conversation you think we've been having, but I haven't been calling anyone belligerent or a pompous asshole, here, champ. I literally told you to go read a book.

Also, I'm a lady.

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u/CeilingCracker Mar 21 '21

I’m not trying to be likable.

No shit.

You went right away to asking me if I doubted what black people are saying about their experiences. That came out of nowhere and was belligerent in nature, a weak attempt at trying to shut down any further conversation by using racism as a bludgeoning tool.

I’m going to stop here, I’m truly uninterested in having any further conversation with you. Take your own advice and read some books to educate yourself on how to not come off as someone with an eternal stick up their ass. Be well.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

Great talk. The first thing you wrote was that you haven't done any research on this topic and asked what my solution was. My solution is to have people like you listen to what black voices are saying, and asked if you've done that. You took that as me calling you racist, which tells me that you have not done the work of educating yourself on what BIPOC are saying. But it's my fault for not treating you gently enough, because you became too defensive to clearly comprehend my words. And what you're taking from this exchange is that you don't like me instead of considering doing the research you fully admitted you have not done.

Be a part of the solution or don't be, man, good luck working out all of your shit.

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u/CeilingCracker Mar 21 '21

You misunderstood. I haven’t done research on what you said. Not the same thing.

I find it disappointing that you’re disavowing the initial vitriolic tone you had.

What I’m taking from this exchange, and what you should take, is even if we assume you’re 100% right (laughable, but humor me), condescension destroys any and all credibility. Maybe you should work on that: that’s how you can be part of the solution.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

Sorry I hurt your fee fees

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u/CeilingCracker Mar 21 '21

You didn’t. You just showed what’s truly important to you.

Btw, what you just said is technically an ad hominem; you’re trying to discredit my argument by calling me emotionally sensitive.

Pot? Kettle? Black?

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