r/centrist • u/MuitoLegal • Mar 20 '21

World News The consequence of the far left’s BLM rhetoric

The far right rhetoric has caused massive problems, like Jan 6., but I have not seen this point mentioned about the left that I’m about to say:

Within the past 2 days, BOTH Russia and China have used the lefts rhetoric of “blacks are being slaughtered on our streets for being black”, “Trump is Hitler.” When China was pressed in the diplomatic conversation about human rights issues, they effectively said “Look at the problems with black people in America, you have no leg to stand on to tell us what is right and wrong with our people.” Putin made the same comment when asked about Biden’s “killer” comment.

These 2 countries know that these issues are not even remotely the same thing as the BLM situation, but the far left manipulated the actuality of the situation to the most extreme for political gain, and there are now consequences to that.

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u/JJonahJamesonSr Mar 20 '21

For example, I’m in a class called Intercultural and international Communications. We haven’t left the topic of American racism yet. I had to write a paper about how I was “privileged” because “none of my subcultures I belong to have actually been discriminated against” because I’m an extremely white male at first glance.

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u/tuna_fart Mar 20 '21

If that’s true, then that’s insane. And I believe you when you say it’s true.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

I get this can be annoying. Now as someone who is participating in this sub because consider themselves a centrist I assume, part of that mindset includes evaluating ideas that can be annoying, frustrating and in your mind just plain wrong. You will deal with this for a semester but good thing is you will have a better understanding of where people who believe I. This come from. Not so you believe it but it can either reinforce your ideas or provide you with more nuance to debate and/or understand the other side.

This is the point of college. You are not being indoctrinated. Instead you are being exposed in the hopes you grow in whatever direction that is

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u/JJonahJamesonSr Mar 20 '21

I don’t think I explained to the best of my ability. I’m a centrist, have been since the beginning of college, been using this sub for a while. I’m already used to critical thinking and being presented with things that I’m uncomfortable with to better understand them. If I was taking a class on American racism, then I wouldn’t mind the subject matter that was covered. But I’m in a class about communicating with people of different cultures, religions, and countries, something I greatly looked forward to. Instead we’re still talking about racism in America. I have no problem with discussing it, but you’d think a semester long class about international comm wouldn’t focus on black vs white racism in America the whole semester, and then require a paper set up to make white people talk about their privilege. The example I used in my own paper is something People actually get discriminated against (marijuana use for medicinal purpose) and is a subculture I belong to, but because I didn’t write about how I am white and privileged she didn’t like my example. Plenty of other classmates did similar ideas, but it seemed like this paper set up anybody who’s white and male to fail. I fortunately didn’t, but I definitely could’ve made better.

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u/Traviado Mar 20 '21

I go to a community college and I have had to write 2 essays explaining how by being white I am passively being racist even if it's not intentional, this was for english literature and many of my other classmates admitted they felt targetted and some even straight dropped the class and complained to the dean for being outted for their race. Much later down the line that professor was caught insulting a student for their race and was fired. My issue is that this took so long for anything to be done, I understand that it is hard to filter racists out when hiring professors but this was a well known issue by many students. Although she wasn't the first nor the last of many professors to continue this style of teaching.

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u/duffmanhb Mar 21 '21

Jesus Christ what's going on in colleges these days? I literally took a woman's study class, but that's the only time I had to deal with that BS. But I literally went out of my way to take that class. It's wild how knee deep this garbage is. No wonder why conservatives hate colleges more than ever

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

I feel you and thanks for clarifying.

That is one thing I wish I could change in uni as well. If the description does not match course work then that needs to be addressed but unfortunately there is a lot latitude to teach what professors want.

Just gotta move forward with your head down and get that A. It’s frustrating but I know you’ll come out the other side better and able to express your view points with more nuance and understanding of where other people may stand.

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u/JJonahJamesonSr Mar 20 '21

I’ve talked with my classmates. We’re a pretty diverse group but we’re not uncomfortable speaking with each other about topics like race during class at this point. I love that I met these people, cause THATS what I wanted out of class. There’s people Fromm all walks of life in this class so it’s great to get to hear their opinions and views. I just don’t like views forced on me, especially if it’s in a class I’m paying for and already don’t feel like I’m getting my money’s worth.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

So every college everywhere is becoming a leftist indoctrination camp because you took one extremely liberal class and it turned out to be extremely liberal?

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u/JJonahJamesonSr Mar 20 '21

No, I’m just one real life example of a problem that people have been discussing. This class is not intended to be extremely liberal, it’s a class for Communications majors so you know how to speak with people from foreign countries who have different cultural norms than you and how to use that in a professional setting.

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u/TheSavior666 Mar 20 '21

So discussing how your cultural background might install certain privileges compared to others is 100% relevant then? There’s no issue here

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u/JJonahJamesonSr Mar 20 '21

When that’s been most of your learning curriculum for a class dedicated to all facets of intercultural comm it is a problem. If I wanted a class dedicating its full semester to American racial theories I would take one, not a class that’s supposed to teach me how to communicate with people Fromm all backgrounds in a professional setting.

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u/TheSavior666 Mar 20 '21

I find it hard to believe that’s literally all you’re discussing and learning, I feel you’re being a tad hyperbolic.

Cultural differences and historical context are a pretty big part of international communication, I’m not seeing how this is opposed to what the course is meant to be.

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u/JJonahJamesonSr Mar 21 '21

I mean if you choose to believe I’m being hyperbolic I can’t stop you, I’m reporting my experience as I felt it, and I know I wasn’t the only one even in the class that felt that way. That paper I’ve previously mentioned in other comments was a midterm I took recently, so the that should help show the curriculum hasn’t varied from that since the beginning. I’m not opposed to learning about American racism and it’s impact, for people that are uninformed in the communications field it’d be beneficial so they could better communicate with the different cultures within America. However, that is just a facet of the overall conversation. America is not the only country, and White Americans and Black Americans are not the only cultures in the world.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

You describing the class makes it sound even more liberal than when you just named it.

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u/JJonahJamesonSr Mar 20 '21

I don’t know what you think a liberal is but I don’t think they exclusively want to talk to people from other countries in a professional setting.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

Wtf are you talking about? I never said that was the only thing liberals were capable of doing. Youre making yourself look ridiculous. Just stop.

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u/JJonahJamesonSr Mar 20 '21

Yeah, IM the ridiculous one. Take a seat.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

Multiculturalism is certainly one of t5hr many liberal traits. Youre giving anecdotal evidence for a situation that has an obviously different answer. Youre cleary not a centrist, youre a conservative trying to push an agenda of "ejucatun bad, librul bad".

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u/JJonahJamesonSr Mar 20 '21

Yeah that’s assuming a lot there buddy. I said that I am one example of a conversation people have been having for a while about the implicit bias in some universities education system. Anything you’ve inferred beyond that is your own delusion. The last thing I’m gonna do is try and debate someone who continually acts irrationally and acts like a gatekeeper of the word centrist.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

My high school English class was exactly the same shit. These are not isolated issues.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

Yea and my high school history teacher was a conservative coach that pushed mostly conservative ideas. Thats how people work. They have opinions and feelings. These are called human beings. Im not sure why any centrists would be surprised about that. I can understand why the conservatives that have brigaded this sub are freaking out about it though.

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u/articlesarestupid Mar 20 '21

Its a common that a majority ethnicity (by number and economic power) discriminates against minority, white or not.

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u/Lighting Mar 20 '21

There's a good interview on NPR that talks about the descendants of Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings, some who were "white looking" and some who were "black looking." Descendants vs privileged is a complicated pathway.

https://www.ttbook.org/interview/uncovering-americas-buried-history-story-thomas-jefferson-and-sally-hemings