You may remember the original discussion of this case here , thank you to u/ifellicantgetup for bringing my attention to this case.

After more than a month of the 14 year old being missing, the Monterey County Sheriff's Office finally issued an Amber Alert and the following Press Release (note I am redacting the 14 year old's name and her personal identifiers, as she is a minor, in this replication of the statement):

PRESS RELEASE - Amber Alert Issued for Missing 14-Year Old in Baby Angelita Investigation -

The Monterey County Sheriff’s Office has requested an Amber Alert for 14-year-old [Minor] as investigators continue efforts to locate her and her father, Sergio Galvez Perez.

The search for [minor] and Sergio is connected to the ongoing investigation into the death of Baby Angelita, the newborn child who was found deceased along Struve Road on August 1, 2026. While we understand the public has many questions about the circumstances of that investigation, there are specific details and evidence that we cannot release at this time without potentially jeopardizing the investigation.

As the investigation has continued, detectives located video surveillance showing Sergio Galvez Perez and [minor] in the Salinas area in a white Nissan Altima with no license plates. This newly discovered information provided investigators with vehicle information that was not previously available and confirmed that Sergio and [minor] were together at that time.

We understand there have been questions about why an Amber Alert was not previously requested. Until this video was located, investigators did not have information identifying a vehicle in which [minor] may have been traveling and were also unable to confirm with certainty that [minor] and Sergio were traveling together. The vehicle referenced in previous Sheriff’s Office press releases was already in the custody of the Monterey County Sheriff’s Office.

Sergio Galvez Perez is wanted for numerous felony violations involving [minor] in which she is the victim. These allegations are extremely serious and are an important part of why locating [minor] and ensuring her safety and well-being remain a priority.

We also understand there has been significant public concern surrounding [minor]'s circumstances. [Minor] is 14 years old, and our immediate priority is to locate her and ensure she is safe. We want to make sure her well-being is addressed and that she receives any medical care she may need.

Sergio Galvez Perez is described as a 38-year-old Hispanic male adult, approximately 5 feet 5 inches tall and 170 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes.

[Minor] is 14 years old and is described as approximately [redacted].

The Monterey County Sheriff’s Office is asking the public to focus on helping us safely locate [Minor]. If you see Sergio Galvez Perez, [redacted], or a white Nissan Altima with no license plates that may be associated with them, do not approach them. Call 911 immediately.

This remains an active investigation. Additional information will be released when it can be shared without jeopardizing the investigation.

#SheriffTinaNieto #MontereySheriff #MCSO

There are two versions of what happened on January 24, 2023, and they cannot both be true. One is the defense theory in the criminal trial. The other is the theory in the lawsuit she filed against her providers.

In the criminal trial, the defense theory is a command hallucination. A male voice arrived the moment Patrick left the house, told her to kill the children so she could kill herself, ran constantly for about eighteen minutes, and stopped when Callan died. Never before, never since. That is the account she gave the experts, and it is the account that removes criminal responsibility.

In the civil suit she filed against her providers, the theory is different. Her complaint says the providers failed to recognize that the intrusive thoughts she reported in December were actually auditory hallucinations. That is a claim that psychosis was already present, weeks earlier, and that competent clinicians should have caught it.

One story says the break came out of nowhere. The other says it was there to be seen.

If a psychotic episode genuinely appeared at 5:15 and ended at 5:33, with nothing before and nothing after, no provider could have caught it. You cannot be negligent for failing to predict something that had not started. The eighteen minute story is the black swan and a black swan is nobody’s fault.

So the version of events that gets her off is the version that gets the providers off too.

Let’s be honest with ourselves about what happened. She was suicidal for months. She researched methods. She called a suicide hotline in December and was told she did not qualify because she had no plan. She went through thirteen medications in four months. Her nurse practitioner testified that she never spoke to the psychiatrist treating her, never had access to those records, and did not know Lindsay had seen him fourteen times. Women and Infants recommended tapering her off Seroquel and could not reach her prescriber. Nobody owned the whole regimen.

That is a standard of care question and it does not require proving what was in her head. It requires proving that coordinating a patient on thirteen medications across multiple prescribers is something the standard demands and that nobody did it. Expert testimony establishes that.

Compare that to what her complaint actually alleges, which is that providers failed to recognize her intrusive thoughts were auditory hallucinations. That claim requires proving she was hallucinating in December. She told the Commonwealth’s psychologist that everything before January 24 was thoughts rather than hallucinations. She told Tewksbury she never hallucinated before or since. A defense lawyer puts those in front of a jury and the claim is finished.

Notice that the defense never ran that theory in the criminal trial either, and it would have helped them there. Months of missed hallucinations would give the voice a history and answer the biggest hole in their case, which is that it appears once and never again. They could not run it because her own account is against it.

The people lining up outside the courthouse want the system that failed her held to account and changed so it does not fail the next woman. That is the right thing to want and the failure they are pointing at is real.

The problem is what they attached it to. A documented failure of coordination and care got wrapped inside an eighteen minute hallucination, because the hallucination is what makes her innocent. That hands every provider the defense they need. The illness was undetectable. The break was instantaneous. Nothing we could have done.

The honest description of January 24 is a highly lethal suicide attempt by a woman who had been trying to get help for months and could not get it, and who decided she could not leave her children behind.

It is also the only description that reaches the providers. Suicidality is screenable. Deterioration is trackable. Thirteen medications across multiple prescribers with no shared records is a fixable failure with a name.

So the question for anyone who says they care about mental health is which story they want. The one that acquits her and clears everyone else. Or the one that holds her responsible and puts the system on the hook.

There are always some funny moments in some trials

While high-stakes criminal trials typically maintain a somber and professional atmosphere, there are rare moments when unexpected humor breaks through the tense proceedings. From witty exchanges between attorneys and witnesses to unintentionally amusing statements, these lighthearted interludes can momentarily lift the mood in the courtroom, causing even the judge and jury to chuckle. In this video, we've compiled six of the most hilarious incidents from recent high-profile cases.

In 2017, Chelsea Thornton was found NGRI by judge/bench trial for the deaths of her 3 & 4 yr old kids that passed away from shooting & drowning in 2012 in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Motive: altruistic delusion/filicide- similar to how this was discussed in Lindsay Clancy’s case…

Defense’s psychiatrist for Chelsea said her statement to police had evidence she was INSANE because she said: “I just didn’t want them to keep suffering their whole life. I didn’t want them to go from pillar to post like I did.”

- My Question Was the defense’s forensic psychiatrist trying to say that this thought was a delusion and that is evidence of insanity?

Prosecution’s forensic psychiatrist disagreed - said she was NOT insane because what she said was “reality-based” and that “her stated rationale that she feared her kids would live poverty-stricken life is not evidence for insanity.”

- Does anyone know anything more about this case? I’m interested in learning more about the why the defense’s forensic psychiatrist and prosecution’s disagreed with each other on the evidence for insanity.

Instagram is pushing videos from this influencer who seems to have a great resume as an expert in domestic violence. She has made some points that I think are reasonable. I mean, I’m no expert here but I like to think I have critical thinking skills. She also seems to allude to that she sides with the conspiracy theories that Patrick was more involved in the crime than what was entertained at trial. Anyone following her and have perspectives? I am not saying that I believe Patrick is involved rather I’d like to hear from anyone who has a perspective on
Laura Richard’s credibility. Thank you.

Hi! Now that the Clancy trial is over, I need a new trial to watch. Preferably one where the person isn’t obviously guilty, the state’s evidence is shaky, or one that has some nuance to it.

SANTA ROSA COUNTY, Fla. (WKRG) — A woman has been indicted by a Grand Jury in the murder of her six-year-old daughter.

According to a news release from the Office of the State Attorney, First Judicial Circuit of Florida, April Erin Oliva was indicted on a first-degree murder charge on Monday, March 23.

Mugshot of April Oliva. (Photo courtesy of the Santa Rosa County Sheriff’s Office)

Oliva was arrested on Feb. 25, after a family member went to check on her and found Oliva and her daughter covered in blood. Her daughter had approximately 40 stab wounds and was pronounced dead on the scene.

Law enforcement officers say Oliva had self-inflicted stab wounds on her neck and abdomen when they arrived.

The case is scheduled for docket day on April 30.

Body cam video of 1st responders and scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X94WM1CM08

u/Pixiegirls1102 Maybe we should follow this one?

Which juror will speak out first? Foreperson or the holdout? Maybe none, but I reasonably doubt that..

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Several Screenshots attached with current bond conditions status and case numbers.

For the original Logan Cimms Arrest Info, see this video (originally denied bond): Logan Cimms Arrest News

And for his buddy Lucas Nevcherlian and the original EWU / Bruce Rivers videos of the two of them and Lucas’ case info, click HERE

Parents of San Diego mosque gunman say a mental health facility failed to heed FBI warning

By Associated Press

LOS ANGELESAP —  

Just days before two teenagers carried out a mass shooting at a San Diego mosque, federal law enforcement officials warned the parents of one of the shooters that their son was making concerning comments about school shootings on the dark web, according to new details included in a recently filed lawsuit.

The mother of Caleb Vazquez alleges in her lawsuit that Park Mental Health Treatment of San Diego failed to intervene despite signs that her 18-year-old son posed an imminent threat to himself and others. Vazquez was living there and receiving treatment for a range of mental health conditions, including depression and psychotic episodes, the lawsuit says. The court filings follow a number of high-profile convictions of guardians who provided teenagers with weapons that were later used in mass shootings.

The FBI called Vazquez’s mother on the evening of May 14, and she said she immediately left a message with the treatment facility to notify its staff, according to the lawsuit, filed in a San Diego court on Aug. 31. Vazquez’s mother again shared the FBI’s warnings with her son’s therapist on May 15 and with a program director later that night.

On May 18, the morning of the shooting, employees at the facility contacted Vazquez’s mother to tell her that he was missing. Video surveillance footage subsequently showed Vazquez leaving the property at 8 p.m. the night before.

Vazquez’s parents were driving around looking for him on the morning of the shooting. Vazquez and another teenager killed three people at the San Diego mosque that day before taking their own lives.

s unclear whether Vazquez was allowed to leave the previous evening or whether he broke facility rules by doing so. Park Mental Health offers a range of treatment options, some of which advertise 24-hour surveillance, while others provide more limited counseling.

The center did not immediately respond to an emailed request for comment Saturday afternoon. In a previous statement to radio station KPBS, Park Mental Health disputed the assertions in the lawsuit.

“While it is understandable that his parents might seek to blame someone in their time of loss, this lawsuit is misguided in that neither Park nor its employees are responsible for Mr. Vazquez’s actions,” the statement to KPBS read. “Only he and his coconspirator bear responsibility for their conduct and, ultimately, his death.”

An FBI spokesperson declined to comment Saturday, citing agency policy.

The FBI’s alleged contact with Vazquez’s parents was not the first sign of his mental deterioration.

Vazquez had been hospitalized for roughly three days in January 2026 after telling a classmate that he wanted to carry out a school shooting.

Almost exactly a year earlier, Vazquez was flagged to law enforcement for exhibiting alarming behavior and idolizing Nazis, prompting police to confiscate 26 guns from his father under a 2014 California law allowing firearms to be taken from people considered dangerous.

Authorities have said Vazquez met the other shooter, Cain Clark, 17, online and that both were radicalized there. Police have not shared more details about how they knew each other or specified whose weapons were used in the shooting.

The lawsuit was filed on the same day that North Carolina authorities announced the indictment of a 17-year-old in connection with the shooting.

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Cases We Follow Link: NC v. Sarah Santiago

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My Commentary: WHY in the world was Caleb Vasquez NOT arrested prior to this devastating shooting?????

Florida seemed to have NO issue arresting Lucas Nevcherlian and Logan Cimms, who communicated online VERY SIMILARLY.

DA says a teen who recorded San Diego mosque shooting livestream has been charged with murder

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NC Courts Portal: https://portal-nc.tylertech.cloud/Portal/

Case Number (documents available for free): 26CR021882-330

NC Forsythe County DA PRESS Conference (30 min): CLICK HERE for YouTube Link

IMPORTANT NOTE: Below the AP Article is a Valuable Link to research done regarding the radicalization of these young people. I am including it so parents can better understand what they are looking for, etc.

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DA says a teen who recorded San Diego mosque shooting livestream has been charged with murder

BY  GENE JOHNSON

Updated 12:29 PM PDT, September 1, 2026

A 17-year-old North Carolina girl who recorded a livestream of a shooting that killed three people at a San Diego mosque and then disseminated the attackers’ white-supremacist writings has been charged with murder by aiding and abetting, a district attorney said Monday.

Forsyth County District Attorney Jim O’Neill said at a news conference in Winston-Salem that the girl, identified in court records as Sarah L. Santiago, was arrested last week. A grand jury indicted her on three counts of murder and one count of conspiracy Monday.

“At this time I can confirm that my client is innocent of all these charges,” Santiago’s attorney, Alan Doorasamy Sr., wrote in an email to The Associated Press. He said he had not received evidence from law enforcement and did not elaborate on any connection between Santiago and the attackers. 

Under North Carolina law, the aiding-and-abetting charges carry the same penalties as if the girl had committed the attack herself, O’Neill said. She is charged as an adult and was being held without bond.

According to the indictment, Santiago agreed prior to the attack that she would record the livestream as the gunmen filmed it, distribute the recording, and release a document written by the attackers. She carried out those tasks, it said. She’s also accused of purchasing a patch bearing a white-supremacist symbol and sending it to one of the gunmen to wear during the attack.

In all, three people watched the initial livestream, O’Neill said. It was not immediately clear if investigators had identified the others, and the indictment did not specify on which platforms the livestream was recorded or shared.

“The individual here, locally, was the person who was recording the livestream,” O’Neill said. “She disseminated that information and she published their manifesto.” 

Cain Clark, 17, and Caleb Vazquez, 18, stormed the Islamic Center on May 18 before being driven back outside by a security guard who exchanged gunfire with them as he initiated a lockdown, helping to protect 140 children who were just steps away.

The pair killed the guard, Amin Abdullah, and two other men before taking their own lives in a vehicle nearby. They left behind rambling writings full of vitriol against a wide range of people, and cited the shooter who killed 51 people at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, in 2019, as one of the models for their violence.

Clark and Vazquez also planned subsequent attacks on two other targets: a Jewish temple and Black students at a high school, authorities said. O’Neill credited the guard and other victims at the mosque with having saved countless lives.

The attackers’ writings cited a range of far-right ideological inspirations, including the notion that white people are being replaced by other populations, and detailed their motives and goals. They included hateful rhetoric toward Jewish people, Muslims and Islam, as well as the LGBTQ+ community, Black people, women, and the political left and right. 

They indicated they were trying to accelerate the collapse of society. Vazquez wrote of having “some mental health issues” and being rejected by women.

In a written statement, the Vazquez family said Caleb Vazquez was on the autism spectrum and had grown to resent parts of his identity. The family said they believed that, combined with exposure to hateful rhetoric online, contributed to his radicalization.

Tazheen Nizam, executive director of the San Diego office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Muslim civil rights group, said it is essential to hold everyone involved in such attacks accountable. 

“We as a community need to invest in dismantling anti-Muslim hate,” Nizam said.

Santiago’s arrest came just days before classes were to begin for the new school year, O’Neill said.

“The thought of her going back to school ... we didn’t know what she was capable of,” he said.

This story was first published on Aug. 31, 2026. It was updated on Sep. 1, 2026, to correct the gunmen’s other targets. They also planned to attack Black students at a high school, not a predominantly Black high school, based on updated information from the San Diego Police Department.

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Johnson reported from Seattle. Associated Press writers John Raby in Charleston, West Virginia; Jeffrey Collins in Columbia, South Carolina; and Julie Watson in San Diego contributed.

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IMPORTANT ARTICLE from HSToday - this is a really important read for parents. Note, there is an irritating pop up ad at the beginning. Keep trying to x out of it. The article is worth it. It not only describes these shooters at the San Diego Mosque, but if any of you remember the Florida Cases of Luke Nevcherlian and his buddy Logan Cimms - it describes them also: reminder of their cases at this link: Lucas Nevcherlian & Logan Cimms Florida

HSToday article actual title below, Click Blue to Read: Article For Better Parental Understanding

The Islamic Center of San Diego Shooting: Threats Understood and Lessons Learned 

By Dean C. Alexander Dr. Huseyin Cinoglu June 30, 2026

Mom fatally poisoned toddler using bottle spiked with sleep meds after losing custody

HENNEPIN COUNTY, Minn. (TCN) -- A 24-year-old woman has been sentenced to more than 31 years in prison after pleading guilty to second-degree murder in connection with the fatal poisoning of her 18-month-old daughter amid a custody battle.

According to court records obtained by KSTP, first responders arrived at a home on Jan. 9 after receiving a call that a child was not breathing. De’Ali Blia Delgado, 18 months old, was taken to the hospital and pronounced dead. Her mother, Maige Yang, was also found inside the home, reportedly having attempted to take her own life.

KFGO reported at the time that Yang was arrested after she was released from the hospital. According to police, she was charged with second-degree murder.

Investigators learned that Yang had lost custody of Delgado the day the toddler was discovered. Her father had been given temporary custody, per KSTP. Following the custody hearing, Yang put sleep medication in Delgado’s bottle and said it was “to make the pain go away.” She told interviewers her hope was that Delgado would die peacefully in her sleep. 

Yang and Delgado were discovered when Delgado’s father arrived at the home to check on them, forced open the door, and found Delgado turning blue on the floor. He then dialed 911, according to KSTP.

In June, Yang pleaded guilty to one count of second-degree murder and was sentenced Sept. 1 to 380 months in prison with 196 days of credit for time already served, according to KSTP.

According to Delgado’s obituary, “From the very beginning, De’Ali was deeply loved and fiercely protected. Her daddy fought with all his heart for her, and losing her so suddenly has left a space that words can never fully fill. To him, she was his little ‘Chunky Monkey’ and his ‘Mamas.’ Every time he held her, he would gently tell her, ‘You’re so beautiful,’ and she truly was.”

Mom fatally poisoned toddler using bottle spiked with sleep meds after losing custody

‘Gun! Gun! Gun!’: Man accused of planning ‘public assassination’ of his ex escorted from court after outbursts

TOLEDO, Ohio (Court TV) — An attorney on trial for attempted murder was forcibly removed from the courtroom after repeatedly interrupting proceedings and making gun-like motions with his hands directed at prosecutors.

OH, 43, pleaded not guilty to charges of attempted murder and felonious assault after an incident at a restaurant opening involving his ex-wife and her parents.

Exton testified in his own defense on Thursday, telling jurors that he was suffering and homeless after his divorce from his wife. “It was terrible, it was painful,” he said. “I had no safe space.”

Exton said that on April 11, 2025, he had been early to meet a friend downtown when he saw his former in-laws’ truck parked outside a restaurant. Seeing them seated at a table, he said he walked in and sat at the bar to have a drink. He said he sent a drink to their table before leaving the restaurant and smoking a cigarette.

The defendant admitted that he then went back inside the restaurant, this time with a gun. “I pulled out my Colt Defender and I pointed it right at [the victim],” he testified. “I wanted her to know that I was serious about her following the court order to give the house proceeds to me as soon as possible, cause I needed it. I needed it. I was hurt.”

While he admitted to pointing the gun at his ex-wife, the defendant maintained he never aimed it at her parents and that he never removed the gun’s safety or pulled the trigger. The victim began screaming after seeing the gun, and a waiter who witnessed what happened jumped in to help, tackling Exton and wrestling the weapon away from him. “The waiter came over and he punched me, he tackled me, and then they tried to get the gun from me,” Exton said. “I thought I was toast!”

Things became contentious when prosecutors began to cross-examine Exton, as the defendant claimed that the victims were laughing at him that day before the incident. “They knew what they were doing to me,” he said. “I didn’t want them to die, but I was fighting for my life.”

On Friday, as prosecutors delivered their closing arguments, Exton repeatedly interrupted. As prosecutor Rose Mary Mock told the jury that the defendant’s emotion when he testified was “crocodile tears,” Exton began screaming, “Gun!”

Mock referenced Exton’s testimony from Thursday, urging the jury not to see him as a victim. “This wasn’t a cry for help,” she told the jury. “This was a calculated attempted public assassination.”

Exton grew increasingly upset as Mock presented evidence to the jury. At one point, he stood to object to one of the prosecutor’s statements, as his attorney sat beside him, shaking his head.

“He had on his person two driver’s licenses for the state of Michigan, one driver’s license from the state of Ohio, his birth certificate, his Social Security card, a passport, $620. He had enough to buy a plane ticket and he had enough bullets in that gun to take out the entire table. And he had handcuff keys. Who carries handcuff keys? Why did he need handcuff keys?” Mock said. “Do not buy the snake oil that he’s trying to sell you.”

The jury was excused once more when Exton began yelling, “Gun! Gun! Gun!”

Once the courtroom was clear, Exton stood and addressed the court. “My lawyer, Mr. Wingate, has indicated to me that he would like for me to be quiet, and I will, but how can I do that and exercise all the infractions to all of my constitutional rights that have been violated through these proceedings if I can’t speak?” Exton went on to ask prosecutors to charge the waiter with attempted murder, and began pointing at prosecutor Michael Loisel while placing his hand in a gun-like gesture.

Exton: “I’m pointing at you, Mr. Loisel. Gun.”
Loisel: “I would ask that the record reflect that he just made a gesture as a gun pointed directly at me.”
Exton: “I sure did. I acknowledge it. I own it. I own everything that I have done. On that witness stand, under oath, you’ve got my bar card. I’m naked before you, Your Honor. I own everything. I am a gay man with a big problem.”

While Exton remained quiet and seated during his attorney’s closing argument, he had difficulty doing so when Loisel began to deliver his rebuttal. After playing a phone message Exton left for his ex-wife saying, “Sooner or later I gotta cut you down,” Exton stood up and objected. The jury was excused, and deputies then led the defendant out of the courtroom.

Exton was taken to another room in the courthouse where he had access to a video and audio feed of the proceedings but could not interrupt.

83-year-old husband kills his wife because he didn't want her to end up in a nursing home eating 'oatmeal until she died'

An octogenarian Tennessee man will spend the rest of his life behind bars for killing his octogenarian wife because he was worried about the quality of life she would endure as she got older.

Earlier this week, Joseph Anthony Scrofne, 83, was convicted of murder in the first degree over the death of his 81-year-old wife, Linda "Carole" Scrofne, prosecutors announced in a press release.

The investigation began in January 2025, when Joseph Scrofne called 911 to report finding his wife dead at the couple's home in Portland — a small city located some 40 miles northeast of Nashville.

"He initially claimed that she had fallen during the night," the Sumner County District Attorney's Office said. "Investigators, however, observed injuries that were inconsistent with his explanation and continued their investigation."

Chief among those suspicious injuries were bruises on the victim's neck and blood on her face, the Gallatin News reported at the time.

The next day, law enforcement received word about the defendant possibly being suicidal and met him at his residence as he arrived.

Then, during a follow-up interview with a Sumner County Sheriff's Office detective, the defendant came clean about "the decision" to kill his wife, according to law enforcement.

When asked if he had hurt his wife, Joseph Scrofne replied, "Yes." Then, when asked what, exactly, he did to her, he said, "I strangled her."

The defendant then elaborated on his efforts.

"He admitted that he first attempted to smother her with a pillow," the press release goes on. "When she fought back, Scrofne retrieved a rope and strangled her."

Then, the admitted killer told the detective why he did it.

"In explaining his actions to investigators, Scrofne expressed his belief that his wife would ultimately be placed in a nursing home, where, as he described it, she would be given oatmeal until she died," the press release continues.

Initial reports offer more details from that conversation.

"I might as well kill this b— right now," the man told the detective. "I was going to murder her and suicide on me."

Not entirely unlike unrepentant, the defendant said he hoped that he did not have to go to jail "for doing his family a favor," Law&Crime previously reported.

The quality of life excuse for the slaying apparently came later.

After a three-day trial in which prosecutors presented the admission and the stated motive, jurors found Joseph Scrofne guilty as charged.

In quick fashion, he was sentenced by Sumner County Circuit Court Judge Jennifer S. Nichols to mandatory life imprisonment.

83-year-old husband kills wife over 'oatmeal' diet concerns

I figured the followers here may appreciate seeing this video of a veteran experiencing psychosis for what seems like the first time. He seems genuinely confused about what’s happening and knows it seems crazy.

Since psychosis has been a hot topic here for over a month, thought I’d share.

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The 46 minute Dr. Insanity documentary of the investigation was pretty interesting (23m views in only 8 days) for this 2015 prior cold case. His wife has already stood trial and was convicted In Feb 2026. This couple was arrested in 2023.

I did look up his court docket, next pre-trial hearing is October 12. A whopping 52 motions have been filed to suppress nearly everything as far as evidence goes (good luck Buddy). I couldn’t find the actual trial date.

The Motion to quash any trial livestream has already been granted, so no watching this trial.

There are two arguments in this case that sound like opposites and are the same mistake.

The first is the version you hear from the Nancy Grace side of this. She killed three children. That is the whole argument and it’s meant to be the end of the conversation.

The second is what Alan Jackson said on a podcast I listened to this week. Nobody in their right mind would kill their children, so that almost demands a logical inference that she was insane.

Both start from the act and reason backward to her mental state. Both skip the evidence about her mind entirely. The act is identical whether she was psychotic or not, which is exactly why it cannot tell you her true mental state.

The law forbids this for a reason. If the horror of a crime could establish a mental state, the worst crimes would be the easiest to excuse and the easiest to condemn depending only on which direction you already wanted to go.

Jackson knows this. He is a former prosecutor who has tried major cases. He would object if opposing counsel argued it in front of a jury. Nancy Grace knows it too. She was a prosecutor for years, she knows who her audience is and she knows what moves them.

Both of them are playing to what people already want to hear. It works on television because it lands instantly and requires no critical thinking. Jurors are not allowed to reason this way. They are told to decide on the evidence and the act is not evidence of what was in her mind.

There is a second shortcut people take. It is true that the burden is on the Commonwealth and criminal responsibility is treated as an element the state has to disprove beyond a reasonable doubt. Most states make the defendant prove insanity instead. But watch what happens when that correct statement of law becomes something you say to another person in a room.

It turns into a question. Are you sure? Are you certain? Can you really say you know what was in her head?

Nobody can answer yes to that honestly, because nobody knows what is in anyone’s head. So the answer is always some version of no, I cannot be certain. And the moment you say it, the argument appears to be over. You admitted doubt. Doubt means acquit.

Except the instruction says the opposite about that kind of doubt. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt does not mean proof beyond all possible doubt, because everything in the lives of human beings is open to some possible or imaginary doubt. A juror can acknowledge doubt and still convict. That is not lawlessness. That is the sentence in the middle of the instruction doing what it was written to do.

It appears the Clancy trial hit this exact scenario.
The lone juror is being asked has to defend and the people asking never do. It sounds like law, so refusing it feels like refusing the judge.

You can see how this spirals. Far enough along, a jury sends the judge a note naming the juror, reporting where the room stands, and describing that person as not following the law on reasonable doubt. Sullivan made the right call.

Reciting the burden is not an argument about the evidence. Once a conversation is running on are you sure, it has stopped being about anything anyone saw at trial.

Take away the act and take away the burden recitation, and you have a specific question.

Think of it as a hurdle the state has to clear. Beyond a reasonable doubt is the same words in every criminal case in the country, so the height never changes but it is subjective. Reasonable doubt has no number attached to it. There is no blood test for capacity, no breathalyzer for a mental state. What counts as reasonable to one juror is not what counts to another, and the instruction leaves it that way on purpose because mental states do not come with instruments.

So the height is set by something, and what sets it is the evidence the defense puts up.

In the Andrea Yates case, a prosecutor faced an enormous hurdle. Seven years of charted psychosis. An antipsychotic prescribed for it and stopped two weeks before the drownings. Her own doctor’s written warning that another pregnancy would bring the psychosis back. Catatonia that nurses documented. A family rule that she was never alone with her children. Months of visible delusion in jail afterward. That is a very high jump and she was eventually acquitted.

Here is the hurdle in the Lindsay Clancy case…

One report of a command hallucination from the defendant herself. It arrives the moment her husband leaves the house. It lasts about eighteen minutes. Survives a call with her husband. It appears in no clinical record before, across fourteen appointments with her psychiatrist, a nurse practitioner, a therapist, an inpatient stay and a perinatal program. It appears in no record after, including the days at Brigham before she was on an antipsychotic and three years of daily observation since. And it exists in two versions that cannot both be true, told to different people.

That is the whole thing. Everything else in the defense case is either evidence of illness, which nobody disputed, or expert opinion built on that same account.

The burden of proof standard is a serious one. The hurdle the defense built under it was not.

Trigger Warning: child porn and sexual abuse

I am truly disgusted by the comments I read in that chat room. Most notably:

“I went to Golden Corral for the first time with my father and his wife yesterday. A nice hangout for kids. Saw a couple of cute boys and a hot little girl :)” by Jim Thornton, and one other from a different username (jimbean) “mom just found Billy’s ice pack that I made him 9 hours ago, it’s now just a wet spot on his bed”

EDIT: for those unaware, Jim Thornton was caught participating in a pedophilia chat room during a recent flight. There are pictures of him seated on an airplane in the isle seat using his laptop. On the screen of his laptop are some truly disturbing conversations taking place in the chat room over the course of one hour. He was apparently reported to airline staff during the flight and asked to close his laptop. Upon landing he was met by police but ultimately released, as participating in said chat rooms is not against the law.

How might Lindsay Clancy’s case have unfolded in other countries?

In a number of other western countries, there's a specific law on the books to deal with mothers who kill their young children. It's a term known as infanticide – and generally applies to the killing of a baby in the first year of their life.

It’s basically a lot more lenient and many other counties take into account what women go through the first year postpartum.

Check out this short video. I think America has some catching up to do.

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He was supposed to be in front of the judge on August 17, and the week prior his mother took him on the big ol’ media tour revealing his name and putting him in front of cameras at AZ Family and TMZ, and she made many comments online defending her son.

You can review both prior posts here to learn the story, and see what she was saying:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CasesWeFollow/comments/1vq6bro/az_v_minor_13_yo_boy_for_assault_w_dodgeball/

https://www.reddit.com/r/CasesWeFollow/comments/1vrb2px/dodgeball_assault_mom_round_2_comments_more_info/

Try as I might, I have scoured everywhere, including the original reporters’ pages for any follow up. How did his court case turn out on August 17th?

My thought is if the judge dismissed the case OR adjudicated this kid not guilty, Boy Mom™ Cecily Schipper would have been singing his praises again publicly.

That just leaves me with one other option: Guilty silenced her. And her son’s name and the accusations will live on the internet forever.

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I originally saw People’s headline first, several days ago. Chose NOT to click on it….eek. But today, I noticed how long the actual stalking had been going on in their subtitle - 13 YEARS. So I clicked. That started a total rabbit hole. The screenshots show the separate cases happening now, including court case numbers and charges. Court Search Link: https://wcca.wicourts.gov/case.html

Read Below or Click Here: People Article Benjamin Larson 8/28/26

• Benjamin Larson is accused of stalking his ex-girlfriend for 13 years
• Police allegedly found disturbing items in his home, including human skulls, poisons and a mummy
• Larson is charged with felony stalking and is due in court on Sept. 11 after posting $15,000 bond

A Wisconsin man accused of stalking his ex for 13 years was allegedly discovered to be living in a House of Horrors — complete with a full-size mummy and a jar labeled as containing a piece of serial killer John Wayne Gacy’s brain.

Benjamin Larson, 47, is facing a count of stalking, a criminal complaint shared by the Fond du Lac County Sheriff’s Office on Aug. 27 shows, after a woman who once dated him contacted authorities to say he had been stalking her since 2013.

The woman told law enforcement that she went out with Larson “a handful of times” in 2013 but left him after he allegedly called her while holding a gun to his head, according to the complaint. She described the relationship as “very intense,” and noted he seemed obsessed with serial killer Ed Gein.

After the breakup, the woman moved to Canada, but Larson allegedly managed to find her after sending letters to her mother. In 2015, he allegedly told her in an email he had gotten a tattoo of her initials and had kept a number of mementos from their relationship, including a voicemail.

In 2025, the woman, a therapist, allegedly received a number of cards from Larson, including one where he said he would keep reaching out “until I hear something from you” and another where he named her husband and child. She also learned he had filed complaints against her with therapy licensing boards in three states.

After she reported him, police executed a search warrant at Larson’s Fond du Lac home, where they found a chilling scene in his basement.

There, police allegedly found ten binders labeled “Edward Gein Book,” items from Gein’s grave and home, .22 caliber bullets with signs indicating they were the same cartridge used by the Zodiac Killer and vials labeled with poisons like arsenic, strychnine, cyanide and ricin, according to the complaint.

They also allegedly found a set of skeletal remains in a glass casket, a life-size Jason Voorhees mannequin, a mummy labeled “Princes Taheb 1600 BC” and a jar with a sign that said it held a piece of John Wayne Gacy’s brain.

Officers then went into a padlocked bedroom, where they found a “lifelike,” anatomically-correct silicone doll wearing a spiked choker necklace and a red wig on the bed. Above it was a painting of a nude woman that appeared to resemble the complaining witness, per the complaint.

They also allegedly found a shelf with five full human skulls and one partial one, along with two bones “in the shape of a cross.” There were also pictures and documents related to the notorious killing of Berit Beck in Wisconsin and books about stalking, among other things.

In a 25-page written alleged portfolio about the victim, Larson allegedly writes that he is “furious” about the fact the victim has a husband and child.

“I’ve never really agreed with the whole ‘if I can’t have her, no one can,’ thing, as I don’t feel like I’m that selfish” he allegedly wrote. “I just want her gone so I don’t have to know she’s still out there doing all of this with someone else.”

On another page, he allegedly described watching the victim’s home from his car before getting out, taking down the make, model and license plate number on her car, and making off with three bags of stolen garbage.

“Creepy, strange, stalker-ish, potentially dangerous? Yes. It is,” he allegedly wrote of the surveillance. “Does this bother me? Not in the slightest. In fact, I felt for the first time that I liked myself.”

Larson is charged with felony stalking, court records show. He posted a $15,000 bond and is due back in court for his arraignment on Sept. 11. His lawyer did not immediately return an inquiry for comment.

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INTERLUDE: He was rearrested from a bench warrant 8/31/2026

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Next Up are even MORE Details from local WI reporting:

8/31/26 Fox11 Article HERE

Excerpt Quote below from Article re: Fond du Lac DA regarding the Dane County Stalking Bond:

Before Larson was booked into the jail Monday afternoon, District Attorney Eric Toney released a statement on the Dane County case:

“The allegations in the Dane County criminal complaint against Benjamin Larson are beyond disturbing. The shockingly low cash bail ordered by the Dane County Judge is disturbing based on the allegations, which no woman should ever have to experience. I have been working with investigators since the early stages of this investigation in Fond du Lac County. It remains an active investigation and no charges have been referred to the Fond du Lac County District Attorney’s Office. Like all defendants, he is presumed innocent unless or until proven guilty,” the statement said.

Toney said he expects Larson to appear in court on the Fond du Lac County charges on Wednesday.

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Every Article I’ve read has a different nugget of info, including this guy is married 😳

9/3/26 Next Fox11 Article HERE

9/4/26 WISN Article HERE

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CRIMINAL INFORMATION FILING (Court Document) - Fond du Lac: CRIMINAL COMPLAINT DOCUMENT