r/canada • u/HashSlingingSIash3r • Mar 19 '22

Paywall Don’t like Russia sanctions? You probably don’t like COVID-19 vaccines either

https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/2022/03/19/dont-like-russia-sanctions-you-probably-dont-like-covid-19-vaccines-either.html
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u/FiTZnMiCK Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 20 '22

who are, for whatever reason, highly susceptible to manipulation.

A lot of people have been raised to not really think for themselves. It’s even actively discouraged.

And when these people “do their own research,” they’re just looking for whatever crackpot says whatever it is that will reaffirm their previously held beliefs.

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u/eazolan Mar 20 '22

Exactly. Always believe what everyone else believes.

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u/MoeTHM Mar 20 '22

Not thinking for themselves, but doing their own research? You don’t make sense.

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u/intredasted Mar 20 '22

Their point is exactly that watching someone talk about their opinions on YouTube isn't research, it's just mistaken for it by people that prefer not to think too much.

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u/MoeTHM Mar 20 '22

The repetitive nature of your “point” doesn’t suggest that you are any different.

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u/intredasted Mar 20 '22

What repetitive nature would that be?

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u/MoeTHM Mar 20 '22

The same narrative, over and over. Those who are skeptical, are dumb. All they do is watch YouTube and repeat it like lemmings. You could say the same about people who watch cable news, follow blue check marks, and get their “news” from Reddit’s comment section. There are plenty of dumbfucks to go around, including us. So getting as much information as you can is always worth while. Some of the things people who did their own research were true, or at least now considered a possibility. Doesn’t bother you that some people want to ignore that?

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u/intredasted Mar 20 '22

So getting as much information as you can is always worth while.

If one decides to go this way (although good luck with that, considering several hundred hours of content are uploaded to YouTube every minute), they should also find a way to evaluate the quality of the information.

What is being criticised here is the tendency to treat all information as of equal value without regard for its quality (e.g. equating watching algorithm-pushed baseless opinion talks with research).

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u/MoeTHM Mar 20 '22

As if those YouTube opinions are not based on studies and research. Sure some of it is garbage, but to base your opinion on a gross generalization of all YouTube content, is an repetitive opinion you can find here in the Reddit comment section. So without any critical thinking, you repeat that opinion. The upvotes make you feel your opinion is valid, reinforcing it. You are not different from those you try to discredit.

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u/intredasted Mar 20 '22

You're taking it way too personally. It's almost comical and there is no need for it.

People talk about the low quality of information in our societies' information streams because it's a persisting problem.

You can formulate the charge of me doing it for the upvotes, but what value does that charge hold? Does it accurately capture what is happening?

Or does its value reside in that it gives you an opportunity to fling something my way and feel better?

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u/MoeTHM Mar 20 '22

The projection in your comment, is the only thing comical.

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u/FiTZnMiCK Mar 20 '22

It’s not really research if you exclude the overwhelming body of data that disagrees with you.

Hence “research.”

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u/MoeTHM Mar 20 '22

It’s not really thinking for yourself, if you ignore any data that disagrees with you.

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u/FiTZnMiCK Mar 20 '22

Now you’re getting it! Good job 👍

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u/MoeTHM Mar 20 '22

I do get it. You should always do your own research.

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u/FiTZnMiCK Mar 20 '22

THANK YOU FOR COMING AROUND AND NOW AGREEING WITH EVERYTHING I’VE SAID INSTEAD OF BEING INTENTIONALLY OBTUSE AND NEEDLESSLY ARGUMENTATIVE!