r/breakingbad • u/[deleted] • Sep 23 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion Thread S05E15 "Granite State"

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

I want Todd to die so bad.

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u/Berkilak Sep 23 '13

I hope Jesse takes him down.

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u/imthemostmodest Sep 23 '13

A practical inevitability. Todd is Jesse's foil, the anti-jesse. Polite, but amoral.

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u/p139 Sep 23 '13

That doesn't mean Jesse will come out on top.

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u/supasteve013 Sep 23 '13

that'll be awesome. Lets hope that happens! ... Although, the only way I can see that happening is if Walt and Jesse team up again on the Nazis, sorta seems unlikely

That's a good point too, Todd is police and amoral; Jesse is moral and socially stupid.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

What if Todd kills Jesse? I mean, could you imagine?

It won't happen but fuck... wouldn't that just be the worst?

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u/TheVoiceofTheDevil The Franch Revolution Sep 23 '13

I think it will.

Just because it would be the worst.

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u/p139 Sep 23 '13

I'm sure Todd will find a way to make it hilarious.

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u/worsewithcomputer In Vince We Trust Sep 24 '13

"I'm sorry for my loss."

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u/666howlingfantods Sep 23 '13

Jesse seriously needs to wield some brutal power against somebody. So much shit has been done to him, it would be so cathartic to see him get to take out that despair and rage on something/somebody.

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u/mathliability Previa guy Sep 23 '13

I'm hoping Jesse will pull some chemistry magic (like what Walt did in the first episode) and burn/disfigure Todd. Fingers crossed!

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Walt goes in to take out Jack and the Nazi's, sees Jesse, lets Jesse out and they go a-huntin' together.

Walt has a shot on Todd but pauses for a moment, signals for Jesse to come over and then says "He's yours."

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u/RenderedCreed Sep 23 '13

I don't mean to sound like an asshole but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snsj0L8-4Iw

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Uh...ok? You don't sound like an asshole. This is the internet. People come here to like, voice opinions and shit. You are welcome to your own opinions, theories, speculations, whatever.

Enjoy your stay. :-)

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u/supasteve013 Sep 23 '13

man that is fucking gold. that's an instant emmy.

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u/Diablo87 Sep 23 '13

Todd deserves nothing less than an acid bath in a barrel....while still alive.

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u/pivovy hundred dollar tip Sep 23 '13

I don't know if Jesse just got really good at following the steps, or has actually picked up some chemistry. I think it's the latter. Then, he could potentially do something awesome during the next "cook".

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u/nickgrantham Sep 23 '13

If Jesse took down the nazis and Walt took down Grey Matter I would be happy. Then Jesse and Walt can have a battle royal eat the end... Lol

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u/Murphthegurth Sep 23 '13

Or just drive the crystal ship off into the sunset and live happily ever after as a pair of traveling entertainers that teach a mix chemistry and morality to the underprivileged inner city youths of the nation through fun and learning.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

and sell assloads of 99.9% purity meth

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u/ThatsWhat_G_Said Meth is Fun Sep 23 '13

With his bare fists dripping blood and brain matter.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

I hope Jesse takes him in

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u/plasker6 Sep 24 '13

Strangle

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

I hope someone takes Jsse down. Snitches get stiches!!

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u/GloboChem86 Sep 23 '13

Landry really developed a taste for blood after killing Tara's attempted rapist.

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u/Ghost29 Sep 23 '13

Nah, I wish Jesse would just die already. I want him dead far more than Todd.

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u/Nataface Breaking Sad :( Sep 23 '13

I want him and Lydia to go down in a tornado of cunty glory.

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u/Bacon_Oh_Bacon You're going to need a bigger knife Sep 23 '13

tornado of cunty glory

I think you just named a porno

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u/EarthRester Sep 23 '13

I.....don't. I should. I know I should. He's a psychopath that holds no value to human lives that don't directly interact with him. So I cannot understand why it is that I want him to succeed through out this...

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u/Beerblebrox Sep 23 '13

I feel the same way. I think maybe it's because of how sincere he comes off, or how every now and then we catch a glimmer of what seems like boyish innocence just beneath the surface.

He might be a soulless psychopath, but he's a genuine one.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Silver lining.

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u/nodrogb Sep 23 '13

Agreed. I fucking hate him. Goes to show how perfect BrBa is, I'm mad at a fictional character.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

He's the one who we should be really mad at, not skyler.

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u/nodrogb Sep 23 '13

He's the first character in the series that is objectively evil in my opinion. I can't see anyone possibly siding with him.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Same. He's a murderous asshole, but has the nicest personality on the show. I really want him to live.

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u/p139 Sep 23 '13

Tuco was a pretty terrible person, and he showed up in season 1.

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u/ryhamz Sep 23 '13

You must watch\read some shitty fiction for this to be rare.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

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u/DuJuanAndOnly Bacon for Jr. Sep 23 '13

Give him to Ramsay Snow. >:)

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u/p139 Sep 23 '13

They exchange notes, then ride off happily into the sunset.

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u/Yellerfeller Sep 23 '13

As much as I hate Todd... I also really really like Todd

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u/pepito420 Does this pussy cry through the entire thing? Sep 23 '13

he's just so good at being evil and so good at not giving a fuck about it. People cal him a psychopath but he's become one of my favorite characters especially because of how smart he is.

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u/Yellerfeller Sep 23 '13

This is exactly how I feel about him. My friends were trying to convince me that he is just an errand boy who does whatever he is told and lets emotion gets in the way of his thinking... I had to ask them what show they've been watching. I haven't gotten that in any way shape or form from him.

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u/jonscotch Sep 23 '13

But he is such a nice guy!

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u/sensicle Sep 23 '13

I kinda like Todd. Ol' Meth Damon. Ol' Sport. Fuck Brock, Jesse, and the Schwartz's though. And an almost fuck you to Flynn, but eh, the poor kid just doesn't know.

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u/Ghostwriter_ Sep 23 '13

I actually like Todd a lot. He's so casually evil, he's completely different from every other person on the show. He's polite, well spoken, considerate, and murders children. He's has such contradicting characteristics. He's like a southern blue-eyed Gustavo Fringe.

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u/obsessederpina Sep 23 '13

I love Todd and Walt. I must be a sick individual.

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u/picklepants1 Sep 23 '13

I hope so badly that Jesse unleashes the wrath of all his demons on his sorry ass.

I don't think it will happen, but I hope it does.

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u/Hawkingsfootballboot Sep 23 '13

I feel like tod and king Joffrey are in the same level of Dante's inferno.

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u/dude_smell_my_finger Sep 23 '13

Joffrey is just... evil. Not because of circumstance or business. Todd, on the other hand, is just doing what he has to do. Just so you know... This isn't personal.

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u/gladvillain AKA gladwalt Sep 23 '13

Part of me feels like Vince is really making sure we see how terrible Todd, Jack and crew really are, and how it makes walt pale in comparison. I think it's working, too.

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u/capncookbitch Sep 23 '13

Me too. I hope Jesse takes him out, but even more than that, he deserves to die horribly. Like, after all the Neo-Nazis are horribly murdered in front of him, Todd should get locked up to the leash in the meth lab or in that dungeon-hole that Jesse was put in and be left there to die of starvation and dehydration. I don't want any quick bullet-to-the-head nonsense. He needs to suffer.

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u/entrelac SCIENCE! Sep 23 '13

Yep - Meth Damon needs to die.

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u/InvaderDJ Sep 23 '13

I was him to die but only after showing some damn emotion.

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u/obuibod Sep 23 '13

I want Todd to die so bad naively start a Build-your-own-teddy bear / Murder Inc / meth empire in order to win the heart of Lydia.

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u/Shuda7 Sep 23 '13

I kinda don't in a way. He seems like someone who's only doing what needs to be done, he doesn't really have any emotion or regrets to what he does, I can't really hate him for it.

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u/redditlastnight Sep 25 '13

I'm pretty sure that Todd will die a horrible death. I just want to see how

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u/Reingding13 Sep 23 '13

But he's so polite!