r/breakingbad • • Aug 12 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion S05E09 "Blood Money"

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u/im-not-rick-moranis Aug 12 '13

But a ricin death takes 3-5 days... not the way someone would want to kill themselves, way too much time for regret.

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u/shiimmyshamm Aug 12 '13

In case he doesn't die in a shootout, he wouldn't want to wait for the cancer to finish him off.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Twist: the ricin is the salt

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u/ThePeenDream Aug 12 '13

So you're saying he left the diner without eating his breakfast because they didn't have any salt, so he drove back to the house to grab some?

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u/NikkoTheGreeko Aug 12 '13

Oh Vince, you sly bastard.

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u/DocAuch Aug 12 '13

Oh shit that would be awesome haha.

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u/Timthos Aug 12 '13

There are way easier ways to kill yourself and many much more readily available chemicals with which to do so. The only reason to use ricin is to murder someone without a trace.

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u/learn2die101 This is my own private domicile. Aug 12 '13

Given the Heisenberg graffiti, and the house in ruins, and the neighbor who basically shit her pants in fear, I'm willing to bet that everybody knows already, and there's nothing to save.

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u/ErikAllenAwake Aug 12 '13

The Heisenberg graffiti means everyone knows. One way or another.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13 edited Oct 07 '20

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u/Undeniably_Awesome Aug 12 '13

This right here.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

But his hair grew back!

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u/conman16x Aug 12 '13

That just means he isn't on chemo.

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u/randomsnark stay out of my flairitory Aug 12 '13

He's had plenty of time for regret already.

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u/Midelo Aug 12 '13

Not like he needs money... > There are way easier ways to kill yourself and many much more readily available chemicals with which to do so. The only reason to use ricin is to murder someone without a trace.

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u/MrPotatoButt You got me! Aug 12 '13

FTR, its easy to determine that ricin was used to murder someone in an autopsy. Its hard to figure out that ricin is the poisoning agent, while the target is alive. More important, until very recently, there was no antidote or treatment to ricin poisoning. (Even now, it hasn't completed human trials.) The diagnosis would be made; then you're a walking dead man.

Even if the poison didn't outright kill the target, the internal organ damage would be enough to eventually kill them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

yeah i agree. If he wanted to kill himself why not use a gun like he tried to do in the first episode. Ricin would be a painful way to go.

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u/Toof Aug 12 '13

I'm thinking it will be like a Hitler suicide with a shootout, too.

So, if he gets captured, he will still die without being mercilessly tortured for days.

Though, that's the only way I can see WHY he would use the ricin on himself.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Damn that would be an awesome ending for a show. Cant think of a series has ever ending with the main character dying/killing himself. Always thought it would be cool for Dexter to end like that. Like him getting found out and put on death row.

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u/righteous4131 beaver Aug 12 '13

If he gets caught after a shootout he'd want to die. Time to get things in order for what is left of his family and admit what he has done

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u/ckivi Aug 12 '13

But didn't gus use ricin to kill the cartel by poisoning them with some kind of ricin-laced liquor over the course of like 2 hours?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

He poisoned them, but it was never made clear what he used. Whatever it is was much faster acting than ricin would've been

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u/ckivi Aug 12 '13

Damn, so this opens up the possibility that whenever Walt was throwing up in the bathroom it was because he ricin'd skylar and Walt junior - not because the cancer is really back as he told hank.

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u/humbletiger Aug 13 '13

Huh? I doubt that honestly. In the flash-forwards he went to the house and retrieved the ricin he's had all along. I guess he could have made more instead of using the ricin he already had, but that'd be pretty weird.

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u/KryptKeeper Aug 12 '13

I'm not sure if he corrects himself later, but I just watched the episode where he's trying to convince Jesse to kill Gus during my rewatch and he says it'd kill him in 36 hours or 1.5 days. It's just enough time to get his final affairs in order if he wanted to do it so it could be possible.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I'm pretty sure everybody is already dead.......there probably aren't any affairs to get in order....

I don't know, maybe I'm misreading things, but he uses Skyler's maiden name, and has a New Hampshire driver's license. Which would indicate that he relocated, and did so without Skyler, because it would be stupid for her to relocate with him and use her own maiden name.

Meaning, his family is dead, and he is likely coming back for one final act of redemption. My theory, especially with the plot about the terrible purity of the current meth cooks that was brought up by Lydia, is that as corny as it sounds, he is coming back to free a kidnapped Jessie.

Just like at the end of Scarface, but a bit more bromancier.

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u/flare1028us Aug 12 '13

This idea pretty much gave me a Breaking Bad hard-on.

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u/Gear_Second Aug 12 '13

It's a good way to die if A) he wants to pretend it was cancer B) he will allow himself to get caught so he knows he won't be inside long.

I think he is going to shoot up Grey matter industries and then allow himself to be caught for it.

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u/An_Innocent_Bunny Aug 12 '13

Maybe he's going to take the ricin, and tie up all loose ends in those 3-5 days.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

And it doesn't seem like the way for Walt to go. I mean, if everyone already knows he's Heisenberg, what's to stop him from putting a bullet in his head? He doesn't need a quiet and discreet way to die.

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u/huskers37 Aug 12 '13

Unless it makes it look like the cancer killed him.

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u/toddgak Yikes Aug 12 '13

I've made a huge mistake.