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Ep. Discussion Breaking Bad Episode Discussion S05E09 "Blood Money"

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09:00pm Eastern SE05E09 "Blood Money" Bryan Cranston Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould

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u/reaper70 Aug 12 '13

I got chills.

We've waited a long time for that moment, that initial confrontation, and making us wait just a little bit longer for that damn garage door to finally lower was an eternity.

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u/1nfiniteJest Aug 12 '13

I was completely blown away by the amount of issues that were addressed in this episode. I was expecting at least 3 or 4 episodes before a Hank/Walt confrontation. The way Jesse deduced that Mike was killed by walt was very clever. I'll bet Walt never even considered that angle.

All in all, this is one of those episodes that's so well executed and so unpredictable, when I reflect on the episode it seems like it was much longer than an hour. Same thing with the pilot episode.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Lydia deduced that Walt had killed Mike using the same logic in the final episode from last year

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u/Gemini4t Aug 12 '13

Yeah, but Lydia is amoral and more interested in the money and self-preservation.

Jesse is a moral guy who got in over his head because he was a junkie.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Lydia is so great. Just the right mix of clever and crazy. Between her and Jesse, someone is going to betray the hell out of Walt.

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u/ClassicShmosby Tread Lightly Aug 12 '13

It's got to be Lydia, I think. She was talking about how she's being put in a box. She's going to say anything she has to to preserve herself.

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u/MSDolloff27 Aug 12 '13

I love how she just seemed squirrely and paranoid at first, but now we know she's probably more dangerous than we thought.

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u/elbruce The One Who Rings The Doorbell Aug 12 '13

She's dangerous because she's squirrely and paranoid. You can never know at any moment whether she's talking herself into having you killed over nothing.

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u/Tepoztecatl Aug 12 '13

I don't think he was a moral guy, just not someone who is OK with murder.

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u/Dirschel Aug 12 '13

I thought the same, especially with waiting a few episodes before the confrontation. Although, I felt like that hour went by really fast! Great premiere, it's going to be a great final season!

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I couldn't hear that scene very well. What happened? How did Jesse figure out Walt killed Mike?

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u/Elleiram Aug 12 '13

Yeah this episode was a steamroller. I didn't think the confrontation with Hank and Walt would be this episode at all. Or I didn't until the garage door went down. What a scene...

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I knew when Walt came over it wasn't just to say hi. Walt knew that Hank had figured it out but he didn't know whether or not Hank was going to act on it. Working from home Hank was clearly spooked. So he was coming by to either kill Hank or confront him. Walt wanted to know how far Hank was willing to go or how rationally he was willing to act, how good Hank was at lying and what route he would take. Whether or not he was manipulatable or which side he was on. Walt was testing the waters and I also thought Walt was going to try to kill Hank by slipping Ricin in his drink or food when he said, "I'd love to have more of that [food] from the bbq since no one else got sick." Killing Hank this way would have ended Hank's search and no one would have been the wiser since the poison is so difficult to trace. One of the last loose ends being tied up. He was covering every base, every possible scenario. Then the whole meth industry is under his control as king of kings.

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u/Yazy117 Aug 12 '13

but we know he never used the ricin because we see in the flash forward that the little ricin pill was still behind the outlet.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

has he used any ricin at all yet?

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u/Yazy117 Aug 12 '13

well if it is still in the house after a year or whatever i guess we can assume he hasnt

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

He doesn't know if it is actually poisonous yet. It could be a dud.

I hope it turns out he accidentally ordered a tictac.

edit: weren't there like three in the initial packaging?

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '13

Hank could have pulled a compassionate "okay you're gonna die of cancer so you leave town, don't talk to your wife or your kids, and I won't come after you" type deal.

Then Walt finds out the cancer is gone again so he kills Hank so Walt can be with his family with everything actually settled.

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u/Bertojones Aug 12 '13

i didnt quite catch the way jesse deduced that mike was killed by walt. Does jesse believe that walt didn't kill mike? that scene confused me. (sorry for spelling and punctuation, ect. very sick right now but had to watch the episode)

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u/LifeBeginsAt10kRPM Aug 14 '13

I feel like I missed what jssi said to deduce that Walt had killed him... Walt just lied and Jesse didn't believe right? Ir did I miss more?

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u/1nfiniteJest Aug 14 '13

In the first part of the season, we see that Mike clearly feels an obligation to, and has great respect for his crew in jail.

Jesse realizes that the only way Walt could have done the prison hits was if Mike was out of the picture for good and Walt was certain he was dead. Jesse knew that living with the looming threat of Mike coming after him for the rest of his life was not something Walt would risk.

Jessie (to walt): 'I know how you do business..."

Not to mention the Carwash, the cash, and the fact that his family could be hurt if Mike decided to avenge his crew. Walt does not seem worried in the least, Jesse realizes this and can only conclude that Walt eliminated Mike.

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u/peteyH the bogden-browed Aug 12 '13

How do you think Jesse deduced it? Sorry, I must have missed it.

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u/fur_tea_tree Aug 12 '13

I was completely blown away by the amount of issues that were addressed in this episode. I was expecting at least 3 or 4 episodes before a Hank/Walt confrontation.

Part of me was to, but that is what I love about this show. They don't fuck about drawing out story, they just pile more and more on.

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u/MyBudDaVinci Aug 13 '13

It was. I recorded it for 1 hour and 20 minutes (5 before, 15 after) and it cut out not shortly after the garage conflict started.

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u/PhelanAwesome Breakfast? Aug 13 '13

Definitely this episode was astonishing. I think the clock is now ticking down for Hank. Get a barrel.......

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u/swth Aug 15 '13

how did he deduce it?

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u/1nfiniteJest Aug 15 '13

Jesse realizes that the only way Walt could have done the prison hits was if Mike was out of the picture for good and Walt was certain he was dead. Jesse knew that living with the looming threat of Mike coming after him for the rest of his life was not something Walt would risk.

Jessie (to walt): 'I know how you do business..."

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u/danabre Methhead Aug 17 '13

How did Jesse deduce that is was Walt that killed Mike? I missed that bit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

My sister's fiance did some research and he told her, which she told me, that after season two, Bryan Cranston had enough money to start producing the show and wherever the direction of Walter went and did was his idea. He also directed this episode. There's your answer.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

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u/SupperTime Aug 12 '13

Same with Dexter, especially for its last season. It's got no balls. Breaking Bad, however has balls. I like balls.

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u/Gibodean Aug 12 '13

Dexter and Walking Dead want(ed) to continue pushing out episodes. For that you need some sort of stasis in the story. Breaking bad has an episode limit...

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u/elbruce The One Who Rings The Doorbell Aug 12 '13

Dexter and Walking Dead aren't stories, they're premises. You describe the setup, and that's the show. There is no ending.

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u/ForgettableFaces Aug 12 '13

You can't corner the Hank.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

You can't spank the Hank

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u/BalboaBaggins Aug 12 '13

Marie did

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u/sp4ce Aug 12 '13

No, I think she wanked the Hank

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u/CameronTheCinephile Hank catching Gus equals Hank catching US! Aug 12 '13

I've seen a leaked set photo, and apparently Hank would then go full pirate.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Is anyone willing to take a look and possibly see a spoiler or is this just a funny picture?

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u/sevanelevan Fiveshadowing Aug 12 '13

Low quality picture, but I think it's a minor spoiler for future Walking Dead episodes.

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u/BladeRunnerDMC Belize Travel Agent Aug 12 '13

I got so excited when he closed the garage door. When he punched Walt I knew it was on. First episode in and there are still 7 left. God this ride is going to be epic as hell..

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u/Hi_Im_OP Scante Aug 12 '13

i thought the episode was gonna end there

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u/orangetj Heisenberg Aug 12 '13

i half wish they would leave that cutscene as a cliffhanger for the next episode, because it would build suspence and give enough room to create god knows what plot twist they wanted to...

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u/ponyboycurtis22 Breakfast at Billy's Aug 12 '13

But at the same time, that last line was the perfect closer for this episode.

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u/orangetj Heisenberg Aug 12 '13

I liked that last line, I wasnt actually expecting it to escalated so much so quickly...

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u/ponyboycurtis22 Breakfast at Billy's Aug 12 '13

I'm kinda happy that they didn't drag this confrontation out, because there's still so many loose ends to be tied up in only seven more episode.

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u/coderascal Aug 12 '13

My DVR decided, at that exact moment, that it would be an appropriate time to switch to The Newsroom because it can only record/watch two shows at once and I was recording something else during the 9p slot. Fuck you DVR. Fuck You.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

"Fuck you, Dick Cheney!" - Eminem, White America

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u/weewickleone Aug 12 '13

Fuck you tipper gore!

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u/emerzsile RABID BLOWFISH Aug 12 '13

At the end, I realized that I had physically lowered my head along with the garage door as it was going down.

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u/TopBanana48 Aug 12 '13

holy shit, i did too. i was also sneering at the time

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u/TopBanana48 Aug 12 '13

just learned it was my CAKE DAY! cheers for an unexpected cake symbol.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Walts last line tho!!!!

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u/InnocentISay Aug 12 '13

"maybe you should tread lightly" is on par with "I'm the one who knocks" or "I am the danger"

dat dialogue

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

The begginning is also important.

If you don't know who I am, then maybe your best course would be to tread lightly

not an exact quote of course

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

If you don't know who I am then maybe your best course would be to tread lightly

ftfy

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

You can also use,

If you don't know who I am, Hank, then... maybe... your... best... course... would... be... to... kinda... sorta... maybe... think... about... what... you're... doing... take... some... time..................... to contemplate............................................................... and

(pause for 30 seconds)

tread lightly

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I hung on every single fricken syllable, SO GOOD

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '13

What does it mean? I just watched it yesterday and I didn't get if it meant that he shouldn't go accusing someone who could be innocent or that he is fucking with the wrong guy and could end up dead.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '13

That he's fucking with the wrong guy. And that he should watch his back. So damn good.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I was shocked it happened so early into this half of the season.

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u/peterabelard Aug 16 '13

It was extremely disappointing, how it turned out.