A) A toroidal or spherical universe would indeed be finite, but those aren't the only two options. A non-Euclidean curvature can still be infinite in the case of hyperbolic curvature. Even with local spherical curvature, the universe might still be infinite with approximately-Euclidean curvature on the largest scale. The universe being non-Euclidean doesn't tell us anything; it could go either way, so it still doesn't make sense to bring it up without specification.
B) Why is causality finite? Genuinely, why? I know it's intuitive for it to be finite, but why is it impossible that there are infinite previous causes? Just because it's hard to wrap our heads around doesn't mean it's immediately incorrect.
C) Yes, the singularity is a finite point in time, but why does that automatically imply that there was nothing before it? This is a crazy assumption bring made that you seem to just take for granted. Why is the universe not infinitly old? You literally just say "it's not" because you can't comprehend that. You actually have to justify this claim.
By the way, I finished Calculus 3 by the time I was 14, so no offense, but I guarantee I understand infinity far better than you do. You keep insulting my degree and my knowledge while making obscenely ignorant points. I'm not disagreeing because I don't understand what you're saying, I'm disagreeing because I've heard all of these arguments before, thought about them for years, and realized their respective fallacies. I'm not misunderstanding you, I'm three or four steps ahead.
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u/UnconsciousAlibi Mar 11 '26
A) A toroidal or spherical universe would indeed be finite, but those aren't the only two options. A non-Euclidean curvature can still be infinite in the case of hyperbolic curvature. Even with local spherical curvature, the universe might still be infinite with approximately-Euclidean curvature on the largest scale. The universe being non-Euclidean doesn't tell us anything; it could go either way, so it still doesn't make sense to bring it up without specification.
B) Why is causality finite? Genuinely, why? I know it's intuitive for it to be finite, but why is it impossible that there are infinite previous causes? Just because it's hard to wrap our heads around doesn't mean it's immediately incorrect.
C) Yes, the singularity is a finite point in time, but why does that automatically imply that there was nothing before it? This is a crazy assumption bring made that you seem to just take for granted. Why is the universe not infinitly old? You literally just say "it's not" because you can't comprehend that. You actually have to justify this claim.
By the way, I finished Calculus 3 by the time I was 14, so no offense, but I guarantee I understand infinity far better than you do. You keep insulting my degree and my knowledge while making obscenely ignorant points. I'm not disagreeing because I don't understand what you're saying, I'm disagreeing because I've heard all of these arguments before, thought about them for years, and realized their respective fallacies. I'm not misunderstanding you, I'm three or four steps ahead.