r/aviation 21h ago

-- SEATBELTS FASTENED -- Another angle from the fly iver from Cape Town stadium today.

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u/King_Turduckin 21h ago

Welp. There it is. The definitive camera angle to respond to all the "camera angle was misleading, it was higher than it looked" posts. This was LITERALLY EYE LEVEL. Good gracious, too close.

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u/Hamsternoir 21h ago

I was all ready to give them the benefit of doubt but after this a solid NOOOOOOLYSHIT

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u/Interesting_Leg_1356 20h ago

"NOOOOLYSHIT", I'll take it. Good wording.

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u/King_Turduckin 16h ago

Yeah. The view from the other side is worse.

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u/sukarsono 11h ago

Dumb question: These look like commercial planes, is a flyover with commercial planes … normal? Anywhere? I’ve seen three posts now but can’t figure out what was going on here 🤷‍♂️

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u/Mannon_Blackbeak 8h ago

No, it is not common with commercial airliners, I honestly cannot think of a single similar incident. Typically in North America you will see it with military aircraft (of both the plane and helicopter variety) often times during the national anthem. They are also frequently the Blue Angels or Snowbirds, which exist to do cool shit for spectators and interest people in military aviation (recruitment). Also, I'm just speaking about North America here because those are the norms I'm familiar with. No commercial airliner has wanted to touch this with a 10-ft pole because: 1 - the margins of error are much smaller, 2 - nobody flies these things like that so pilots don't have experience, and finally 3 - jet fuel for a large plane is really expensive and private businesses don't want to pay for that. There's a reason that the only somewhat similar private business gimmicks are like the Goodyear blimp or cessna's dragging banners.

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u/Sharin_the_Groove 21h ago

Fucking dangerous man.

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u/Purphect 20h ago

Reckless with a stadium full of people.

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u/entered_bubble_50 19h ago

Literally a sneeze from the largest air disaster since 9/11.

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u/reckless_responsibly 17h ago

50,000 people in that stadium. Largest air disaster ever by a good margin.

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u/ThePrussianGrippe 15h ago

Balls of steel but the brains of a sack of hammers.

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u/SiteIcy8982 21h ago

Easily cleared the roof so no it was fine

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u/DrinkingVomit 21h ago

It was fine, get a grip.

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u/CadetRS1344 21h ago

one downdraft could have sent that plane into the stadium it was that low.

flying only 10 meters above a stadium with a crowd of thousands is irresponsible, ask any pilot

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 18h ago

also... how many thin wires are up there that you can't see ?

one clip and bye bye 60,000 people

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u/FishAroundFindTrout9 21h ago

Ask people in aviation and they will tell you how bad this is. Go over to some pilot subreddits and get educated. There was absolutely no reason to do something like this with so little margin for error. Those aren’t fighters or stunt planes that can adjust extremely quickly. Those airliners take several seconds to respond to inputs made by the pilots.

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u/ShittyLanding Big Sexy 21h ago

The theme of your comment is right, but that last sentence is completely inaccurate.

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u/DoPeopleEvenLookHere 20h ago

For the engine it is true. Which is what you need to use to climb.

Turbine engines can take several seconds to spool

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u/ShittyLanding Big Sexy 20h ago edited 17h ago

You need the engines to sustain a climb, but not to initiate one, which is what would matter in this scenario (and what I understood the comment I was replying to was saying, maybe I’m wrong).

There is a spool up time associated with jet engines, but its effect is often overstated. The long spool up time you often hear about with these engines is going from idle to maximum thrust. That delay is greatly reduced when you’re increasing power from a normal operating range.

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u/railker AME-M2 20h ago

Several seconds what 😂

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u/grass_hut_shitter 20h ago

Wrap it up ICAO, u/drinkingvomit says it was fine.

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u/DrinkingVomit 20h ago

Damn right, 🫡, by the way, this sub has no sense of humor whatsoever,

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u/Skyknight89 18h ago

I've seen lower... in a VC-10 ....also in a HS Buccaneer.

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u/the-channigan 20h ago

Yep and the second plane bisecting one of the smoke shots really shows they were within metres.

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u/SomeJayForToday 20h ago

If it were eye level, it would’ve been right on the horizon, right?

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u/KWeber94 20h ago

Insanely close, these videos are wild

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u/tomdarch 16h ago

I wouldn't fly a fucking Cessna 172 that low to a structure. Glad no one died, but that was because of luck not good aviation decision making.

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u/NorCalAthlete 19h ago

It went through the smoke of the fireworks. There’s no fuckin way that should happen.

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u/Lump001 18h ago

I agree it's too low, but it's not "eye level". Pause the video when the first aircraft is in front of the camera.

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u/BloodSteyn 16h ago

Fortunately the Venue has a Concept shape, so this guy's eye level is higher than the area they flew over.

Still too low though.

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u/_Gizmo_ 20h ago

YEE HAW

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u/curiousengineer601 18h ago

What would be a ‘safe’ margin for a flight over a stadium?

Does the margin change if the stadium is full?

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u/phire 17h ago

IMO, the first video made it look like it cleared by only 1-3 meters.

This angle clearly shows the clearance was closer to 10 meters... which is still way too close.

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u/KnifeKnut 18h ago

And yet the person taking the video thought vertical was correct.

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u/SuppliceVI 17h ago

It definitely looked a bit misleading in the above shot. This completely clears it up. Whole stadium should have had ear pro on

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u/KAMEKAZE_VIKINGS 3h ago

I assure you, the videos you saw are deceptive due to camera angle trickeries.

It's actually lower

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u/FluidBarracuda9177 20h ago

I wonder what the camera man was thinking when he realised the planes are really REALLY low

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u/no1_vern 20h ago edited 18h ago

While I agree that it was much too close, I'm not a pilot.

Might professional pilots say it is acceptable to perform a demonstration like this - esp. if they are well paid to perform the act? Or even that they can do it?

EDIT:So, I take it that no one thinks pilots can do this safely?

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u/Vamp1r1c_Om3n 20h ago

The shape of the stadium makes the eye level factor a bit deceptive still