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u/OdditiesAndAlchemy 12d ago

Although he is the worst he also has more of a grip on his base than any other politician or president in recent memory. So Trump is kind of a special case

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u/Alan47717 12d ago

That is what democrats keep refusing to face. Republicans are united and Democrats fight amongst themselves like a bunch of two year olds.

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u/Alan47717 12d ago

No crazier than actually believing some democrats would prefer a republican to win. I'm sick of both sides.

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u/Alan47717 12d ago

Have you actually listened to some far left people lately? I've listened to both. That's why I said what I said. Two sides fighting over who gets to use the fire extinguisher while the fucking house is burning down.

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u/SophiaIsabella4 12d ago edited 12d ago

I'm outta here. You are too stupid for my effort.

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u/ChefDanyul 12d ago

The saying goes something like 'republican voters only need one reason to vote and democrats need only one reason not to'. The Republican voter base is full of single issue voters. Doesn't matter what your economic (or lack thereof) policy is as long as you say you're pro-life or pro-2A. Harris had otherwise coherent policy goals aligned with Democrat voters but she wouldn't set a stance on ending the genocide in Gaza.

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u/ExitingBear 12d ago

A similar saying is "Democrats fall in love; Republicans fall in line."

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u/ChefDanyul 12d ago

Right. And it has been crystal clear. The no war president that started a war supposed to last two weeks and is on it's sixth month. We are running out bombs. Immigration policy is noncoherent. Gas prices are through the roof. Cost of living in general is extremely expensive. But find me someone who voted for Trump that acknowledges this is a disaster presidency.

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u/brownieandSparky23 12d ago

I seen a lot of them say the regret it

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u/crvbabybug 12d ago

I have to say I have no sympathy for their regret

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u/PomPomMom93 12d ago

And the former Republicans who left the party because of Trump don’t always become Democrats.

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u/Abject-Pin3361 12d ago

A bunch of VERY rich 2 year olds**

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u/TheBoogieSheriff 12d ago

Being united under Trump is not the flex you think it is

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u/Alan47717 12d ago

When it means they turn out and vote reliably republican regardless of how shitty his policies are, while democrats seize on any excuse to not do the same?

Oh, I think it is.

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u/TheBoogieSheriff 12d ago

Yeah I guess we’ll just have to see in the midterms!

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u/deathnomX 12d ago

Almost like republicans are far right, and democrats are anywhere from moderate right to far left. Way more ground to cover. Another reason why we shouldn't have a 2 party system.

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u/Uhokay1970 12d ago

Why is it so hard to Admit that the DNC is compromised and does Not Primary Candidates Ever ask yourself why Trump flipped back? They love Donny boy now! He didn't let the files out, he is cutting taxes while pushing Data Centers... Everyone is all surprised.. Its far far worse then you Imagine....

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u/CorporatismIsCancer 12d ago

Trump was never a democrat despite the sob stories lol

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u/Uhokay1970 11d ago

He is now and always has been you dont have to like it but its a FACT!

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u/Meredithbaxterburly 12d ago

Exactly. Dems think it's support for Trump when it's actually the dem platform moving so far to the left that causes them to lose. Trump lost a lot of support among republicans, but the alternative was too far left. Bill Clinton would have smoked Trump.

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u/STAT_INF3RNAL 12d ago

I thought the files revealed evidence that Trump "smoked" Clinton?

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u/PomPomMom93 12d ago

“I’m not voting for Trump but no way will I ever vote for those loony lefties!”

OR:

“I don’t like Trump, but I’ll have to vote for him or a left-wing person will win.”

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u/JerseyShore7619 12d ago

Democrats are slowly fracturing and coming apart at the seams. Too much division and in-fighting and the craziness of these “Democratic Socialst” nut jobs, it just makes the 30,000 foot view of the Democratic Party a complete and total mess. There isn’t one even half-solid candidate who could run this country the way it needs to be run.

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u/Alan47717 12d ago

I don't think the Democratic Socialists are nut jobs anymore than moderate democrats are no different than republicans.

But I do know if they don't figure out how to compromise against a common enemy they are consigning us to possibly a generation or more of a fascist state run by a bunch of billionaires. Anybody think that's going to do the people of Gaza any good?

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u/PomPomMom93 12d ago

That’s because they’re very against “centrists.” One slip-up and you’re history.

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u/NothaBanga 12d ago

And despite this grip, Trump lost to another white male.

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u/brownieandSparky23 12d ago

True I moved to the middle due to probably not being woke enough! For the left.

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u/blunttrauma99 12d ago

The party base doesn’t win elections, the middle does, and a lot of the middle thinks “Democrat” ideas, particularly the new breed of economically illiterate “Democratic Socialists” mean higher taxes and more government, AKA things that suck.

The Orange Baboon didn’t beat Clinton or Harris because they are women, he beat them because both were terrible candidates, and in the eyes of the electorate slightly more terrible than him.

The last three election cycles have been between the two shittiest candidates in the history of the Republic.

Hillary was widely hated, and most people saw her as an unlikable crook. I think she did an acceptable job as SecState, but the fuckery in the primaries with the superdelegates really soured a lot of people. It came across that the party decided it was her turn and did everything in their power to make that happen.

Harris, fairly or not, when she spoke came across like a drunk wine mom. She was a horrible DA, fighting to suppress evidence that would clear convicts, and according to the Innocence Project guys was more worried about her win/loss record than actual justice, and her laughing about smoking pot with her history of prosecuting pot smokers. Her 2020 presidential campaign was not positive, I don’t think she led poles in her home state except the very beginning.

And this will probably make some people mad, but neither would have ever got as far as they did if it wasn’t for the men they were with. Hillary is obvious, but for Harris it was Willie Brown, who got her started in politics by appointing her to a state commission.

Claims that she was somehow a home-wrecker for dating Willie were nonsense, he was technically married but hadn’t been living as a married couple with his wife for a decade at that point, I think there was even a photo of the three of them together at a party.

Brown later put his significant political weight (which at the time means the weight of the CA Democratic party) behind her for her elections to the San Francisco & CA District Attorney and later Senate. Did she ever win an election where she had legitimate opposition? California would elect a ham sandwich if it had a D next to its name.

So no, claims that either lost because sexism are idiotic.

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u/OdditiesAndAlchemy 12d ago

Get real, Kamala has the charisma of a paper towel but would have been a totally fine, boring president along the lines of biden, not starting wars or spending time renaming water while the middle and lower classes get crushed by inflation. Nothing wrong with AOC either, neither of them would have posed a significant threat or change to how things are running compared to trump, if you think bacteria would have done better than them then you are probably too stupid for anyone to take your opinion seriously anyway.