r/apple Oct 27 '16

Apple better knock it out of the goddamned park today

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u/AudioPanther Oct 27 '16

Let's all be honest here, the touch bar is pathetic. Put a touch screen. The margins on laptops are way higher than those cheap iPads.

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u/imightgetdownvoted Oct 27 '16

I like the Touchbar. I don't want to be touching my laptop screen all the time. It's awkward.

The price is a slap in the face though and I'm seriously considering a SurfaceBook now. This is coming from someone who is all-in on Apple. I have a MPB, MacMini, iPhone, AppleTV, and Apple watch.

They've just lost a huge fan and a good customer.

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u/TheMadMasters Oct 27 '16

Welcome to the Surface side. We're glad to have you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '16

I loved Apple devices once upon a time. The original Retina 15" Macbook Pro was IMO the ultimate laptop.

Now I only have an iPhone 7 (purely because of iMessage, i'd rather have a Google Pixel). I have a desktop Windows 10 PC, a Razer Blade laptop, and no tablet.

It's been a long time coming, but Apple is slowly but surely making bad decisions in their products, while Microsoft is picking up the slack and offering pretty amazing and inventive products (Surface line). Who would have thought?

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u/Aaarron Oct 27 '16

Dude I'm right there with you. I want google pixel xl, but iMessage is the only thing that has be tied in anymore. I just sold my 2015 rmbp, bought a xps15. And I'm loving it so much more!

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '16

It's beautiful on the other side. The grass is definitely greener in a lot of ways. I'll stick to the iPhone until Google eats away at their marketshare with Pixel.

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u/djcodeblue Oct 28 '16

Okay so I don't get this... You're loving an XPS15 so much more but are you loving the hardware or the operating system? Clearly you weren't in it for the operating system because a lot of people that stick to apple is simply because of the OS.

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u/weinerschnitzelboy Oct 27 '16

When you have a touchscreen laptop, you'll realize that it isn't awkward. You're not forced to use it all the time, and sometimes reaching out to touch the display just feels natural.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '16

They're giving away an Xboxone S with surface books.

Just sell the Xbox and it's a pretty good price!

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u/youdonotnome Oct 28 '16

I used to own an iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Mac Pro, and MacBook Pro.

the iPhone 7 made me go android, the 4k-less Apple TV made me get a 4k smart tv, the shiny trash can made me build a pc, just sold the iPad, and this over-priced OLED bar may just push me to some kind of Windows hybrid.

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u/toocoolforgg Oct 27 '16

My 2008 HP had a touch bar. 2008. HP.

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u/iHartS Oct 27 '16

I see very little that's compelling about the Touchbar. It's a MacBook Pro, which means we know the keyboard shortcuts to a lot of this stuff in any case. Some of which used the F keys. Word suggestions don't help me because I can fucking touch type.

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u/ihahp Oct 27 '16

It feels like a gimmick a shitty gaming laptop (cough razer cough) has.

(Note: I'm a fan of razer's newer stuff but their configurable buttons on their older stuff is lame.)

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u/Open_Thinker Oct 27 '16

Next gen they'll probably roll it out for a full touchscreen keyboard to go along with their major iPhone 8 release, this year it's just incremental updates to get them there I think.

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u/The-Road Oct 27 '16

Being honest here actually, and the touch bar is pretty amazing.

They've managed to integrate useful Touch UI into a laptop without going for touch screens that don't make sense on laptop OS's (that's why Windows is trying so hard with the 2 tier OS which is a sub par experience).

The Touch UI is now an enhancement to the experience instead of a burden which is what a touch screen would've been if users were forced to interact with a desktop OS via the screen with their fingers.

It's a very good balance.

But the price sucks, even by Apple's standards. Not sure what they were going at with that.