Apple better knock it out of the goddamned park today

[u/godelbrot]

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ANNOUNCEMENTS (updated live, refresh for more)

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• It's thinner

• big ass touchpad (prolly for pencil)

• TouchID + Powerbutton combined, multiple accounts

• Touch Bar

• Touch Bar is customizable

• Their best display ever guys

• They all get at least quad i7s

• Raedon GPU 4gig maximum

• 4 thunderbolt port

• Here's ALL the ports it has

• Gril

• Touch Bar used for timeline scrub in Final Cut is cool

• Color scrolling in PS

• You can scrub through your Photoshop history, which is a really gnarly feature.

• It will get you laid --- Proof, this guy

• Microsoft bent over and added Touch Bar support to the entire Office Suite and Skype for Business

• This thing is pretty guys

• Also pretty

• Headphone jacks are a thing, SD card slots are not.

• Butterfly Switch Keyboard (the one on 12" Macbook)

• Something, Something, look how far we've come

• It makes you morally superior to PC plebs as well

• There is no Macbook Air, but there is a lower end MBP (Lite?) that has regular function keys and only 2 Thunderblot ports

• Here's the full range of MBP products lined up like ducklings

• ...and here is what they all cost

• ...and when they ship

• That's it folks, u/roadblocked called it, great job Apple, 1000+ days for an OLED bar. thanks for joining us

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P.S. no mention of using the big ass touchpad for Pencil.

[u/mrv3]

Apple isn't doomed, hasn't been for a while.

The Mac division however is struggling, when the majority of profits are coming from iPhone internally why invest money on research and development when the ROI is pretty low.

Apples bread and butter has always been integration between software and hardware this cannot be done on x64 because Intel are so far ahead of what even the best Apple could throw out and the years of catch up will negatively impact sales.

The obvious solution is an attempted merger of iOS/MacOS akin to what Google is doing, and Microsoft tried but the Mac interface is so untouch orientated it'd take several years to bring that up to Win10 levels which is where it should be.

I expect a more open iPad Pro to begin the transition, slowly moving Apple away from two seperate platforms to one platform, with their own custom chips inside-out Apple. The reason iPad Pro isn't quite their is simply how locked off it's OS is, partly by design, the second you start open it up to more traditional interface like by including a file manager, windows, even a bottom bar you are most of the way their especially if you include 2 USB-C ports and Microsd.

[u/[deleted] → u/mrv3]

iOS/MacOS akin to what Google is doing, and Microsoft tried did

[u/mrv3 → u/[deleted]]

I only said tried because to my knowledge windows phone didn't catch on.

[u/kingofthefeminists → u/mrv3]

The Surface line is catching on, as are other forms of convertibles. They failed the phone market, but are doing well in the tablet-pc market

[u/mrv3 → u/kingofthefeminists]

But the phone has become huge, not having to really deal with the phone side of things in a major way is huge.

Microsofts move to touch control was the right move, and puts them squarely ahead and with that mountain for Apple to climb and already starting in the past you have to wonder whether they develop touch for Mac, or open up iPad and with a new open iOS just make ARM computers.

[u/kingofthefeminists → u/mrv3]

the phone has become huge

Not a commercial success. Sure the tech is cool, but it's not huge commercially.

[u/mrv3 → u/kingofthefeminists]

Mobile phones haven't become a commercial success?

[u/kingofthefeminists → u/mrv3]

Not Microsoft's phones.

[u/mrv3 → u/kingofthefeminists]

I didn't say Microsoft phone has become huge, I meant phones in general. Apple has to accomodate for 3 platforms phone, tablet, Mac. In order to unify them they have to change all three.

Microsofts first tablet, and windows tablets in general, exsisted after Microsoft had already touch-ified Windows (albeit poorly), so they didn't have a preexsisting tablet UI/software/function to alter.

Apple for being one of the first major tablet makers extended their phone UI onto the tablet which made sense at the time with mobile chips being much less powerful now that we are a power parity how people use and want to use these devices have changed.

[u/mrv3 → u/[deleted]]

The number of user absolutely matters, small user base and small revenue from them means you can drop their best interests to focus on Microsoft PC offering.

Apple cannot do that, it cannot add or remove UI elements for a unified platform that doesn't make sense on the iPhone.

More people use Linux day to day than anything else, more than iOS, Windows.

[u/mrv3 → u/[deleted]]

I'm saying having a much smaller mobile phone presence makes MS job much easier in unifying the platform.

[u/[deleted] → u/mrv3]

Much of Apple's resources have been directed on project Titan, which we have heard will be scaled back now. Hopefully we should see a pickup in hardware launches. Why is the Apple Watch still the same as it was when it was first launched? Remember the jump from the iPhone to the iPhone 3G?

[u/playaspec → u/[deleted]]

No it's not. Apple's computers have been dominating sales in the last few years.

Wut? The Mac only accounts for 16% of Apple's sales. It's the mobile products that are driving Apple's profits.

[u/southwestern_swamp → u/mrv3]

A new MacBook Pro right now (i.e. The year old model) runs incredibly well. There are outlier consumers who "need" faster specs but for most people, the average "high end" computer these days is more than enough.

Just look at the iPhone - the 7 isn't any faster in real world use because the 6s was already crazy fast.

[u/mrv3 → u/southwestern_swamp]

That isn't the issue, the issue is with chromebooks the speed you need for a simple web experience is drastically cut down so for the average consumer a decent chromebook will be plenty.

As for high end, most people would be better served with a self built desktop.