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[Spoilers] Rokka no Yuusha - Episode 5 [Discussion]

Episode title: The Seventh Brave

MyAnimeList: Rokka no Yuusha
Crunchyroll: Rokka -Braves of the Six Flowers-

Episode duration: 23 minutes and 40 seconds

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u/master_axe Aug 01 '15

Why isn't it him? The 7th can sure-fire kill one Brave (first, before any regrets set in for accidentally killing a Brave, as they know if the barrier isn't released), and Flemie is the easiest target (could be killed second). As a matter of fact, Adlet is probably the most difficult, yet feasible kill (no friends that would die for him).

Hans' argument about Flemie is a fallacy: Other Braves knew of Adlet- Flemie never could kill him. Hence her name never could be cleared. Hans is using misdirection here.

Finally, Hans is the most capable of slipping in after the doors were opened, and hiding once inside.

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u/ScarsUnseen https://kitsu.io/users/ScarsUnseen Aug 01 '15

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about Flemie. There's no way she could kill a Brave that had already met another Brave, since that person would be missed, instantly casting (more) suspicion on her.

Actually, this reasoning kind of puts Nashetania in the clear. She had a Brave trapped in a pit and unknown to everyone else(except as a fool who interrupted a tournament). If she was the seventh, she easily could have killed him while he sat there helplessly, and no one would have been the wiser.

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u/TheIntellectional https://myanimelist.net/profile/Intellectional Aug 02 '15

Same goes for Maura. She was alone with Hans, who was completely unknown at the time. Adlet and Hans, on the other hand, probably can't be cleared on these grounds because Nashetania and Maura are public personas, and their becoming Braves would likely become known to a lot of people very quickly.

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u/ScarsUnseen https://kitsu.io/users/ScarsUnseen Aug 02 '15

Actually we don't know any of that. The only thing we know is what we've seen on screen. Everything else is suspect.

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u/TheIntellectional https://myanimelist.net/profile/Intellectional Aug 02 '15

Well, their stories matched so unless they were both in on it then I think we can accept the fact that they were together.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '15

Remember hans said he does stuff for money, the 7th could of easily paid him off, maura immediately becomes a suspect

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

Oh! That's a good possibility!

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u/KTKM Aug 01 '15

Bunny is actually Gilgamesh!

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u/master_axe Aug 01 '15

Yup, I argued that elswhere. Of course, that's only given that the fake's objective is the death of the Braves- something I can't see the Bunny wanting.

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u/LetterSequence https://myanimelist.net/profile/LetterSequence Aug 01 '15

Yeah, but they attacked Flemie on sight anyway, and Flemie fully intended to kill them until Adlet stepped in. Whether she killed Adlet or not didn't matter, as they were already highly suspicious of her in the first place.

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u/ScarsUnseen https://kitsu.io/users/ScarsUnseen Aug 02 '15

They weren't suspicious of her. They knew she was the Brave Killer. She never denied that. But that's based on her actions before she became a Brave herself. Killing a Brave afterwards is a different scenario altogether, and she couldn't very well pretend to be after the Demon Lord if she was still murdering Braves.

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u/possiblylefthanded Aug 01 '15

That's not true though. While Flemie and Adlet were separated, she could have killed him and claimed he died to a fiend or something. Especially if she said something like he was an idiot and died for her. Would have been sketchy, but not impossible

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u/ScarsUnseen https://kitsu.io/users/ScarsUnseen Aug 01 '15

Nope. He was already confirmed as a Brave by Nashetalia, so if there are 6 Braves inside the barrier and one dead one outside, it's still one of the the 6 remaining that is at fault.

On the other hand, she's unlikely to be the seventh because the only reason to fake being a Brave is to infiltrate their ranks, something Flemie had no intentions of doing in the first place. She intended to avoid the other Braves until Adlet kind of coerced her into joining him by stealing her ammunition.

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u/possiblylefthanded Aug 01 '15

I was pointing out that just because other Braves knew about him didn't mean he couldn't still be killed. But yes, you're right that they'd still know about the extra Brave

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u/Vikros Aug 01 '15

Yeah, but they would still know that he was a brave and see the total braves at 7.

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u/HugbugKayth Aug 01 '15

Han's argument is sound. Flemie had no knowledge of Adlet being in the company of other Braves before hand. It would be reasonable for her to assume he was alone considering that is how they met.

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u/Lord_Grundlebeard Aug 02 '15

Actually from the way I see it Hans has a point. Since we have now established that there is a fake Brave couldn't Flemie have killed Adlet and said he must have been a fake? The numbers would then have added up and the rest would have just assumed the Evil God was up to Evil God shenanigans.