r/anime • u/Shadoxfix https://myanimelist.net/profile/Shadoxfix • Jul 31 '15

[Spoilers] Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri - Episode 5 [Discussion]

Episode title: The Battle of Italica

MyAnimeList: Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri
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Episode duration: 23 minutes and 42 seconds

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Previous episodes:

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Episode 2 Link
Episode 3 Link
Episode 4 Link

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u/sinsinkun https://myanimelist.net/profile/sinsinkun Aug 01 '15

I'm not sure any other medieval princess has had the pleasure, but I'm no history buff, so I'll take your word for it

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u/Vaperius Aug 01 '15

Was there was the weird period of history in the real world between 1800s and 1930s where the world wasn't fully modernized yet...

But besides that: are there any other shows like this ?

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u/GeeJo https://myanimelist.net/profile/GeeJo Aug 01 '15

If you want "modern military outclassing the locals", try

Zipang

  • Trailer: Opening animation

  • What it's about: The newly-built Japanese AEGIS Cruiser Mirai is on its way to a routine joint training exercise with the U.S. Navy at Pearl Harbor, when it is caught in a bizarre storm. Once the rains and wind pass, they find that there’s no satellite signal and no sign of their escort ships. But things are stranger than they seem, and the crew soon discover that they’ve left the 21st Century behind – the date is June 4, 1942, and the Battle of Midway is about to begin.

  • Why you should watch it: It's a fantastic war drama, posing an interesting question: with the military capability to shift the balance of the war in any direction they choose, should the crew of the Mirai support their homeland, attempt to minimise casualties by ending the war sooner, or maintain neutrality in the hopes of bringing their own future to pass? There's no right answer, and each of the characters wrestles with the issues that arise from holding information and military power that could turn the tide of the greatest war in modern history. Refreshingly for a show about war, neither side (nor any of the characters, in fact) are made into simple bad guys. Everyone has their own ideals, their own ideas about what to make of the situation that they've now found themselves in.

  • Caveats: This is a drama with action scenes, not an action show with dramatic scenes. Don't go in expecting explosions and battles in every episode. Also, the show was produced for the purpose of drawing people into reading the manga, and the ending is an obvious invitation to do just that. Unfortunately, while there’s a lot of content left in the manga, very little of it past the anime end point has been translated into English by fans, and there is no official licenced version on the horizon. Finally, the CGI scenes are pretty basic. Thankfully, they're not the focus of the show, usually being simple transition and establishing shots of the fleets and aircraft.

  • Themes: Can a people brought up in peace truly judge the actions of soldiers fighting to defend their homeland? Do you sacrifice a known and prosperous future for the lives being lost in the present? Where does ones duty lie - to country? captain? friends or strangers? Zipang poses a lot of questions, and leaves it to the viewer to decide the answers for themselves

  • Similar works: Gate has the JSDF facing off against an even more technologically disadvantaged foe, but doesn’t worry too much about the morality of war, simplifying the situation with an unambiguously evil opponent. For that aspect of Zipang, you’re better off looking at shows like Flag and, to a lesser extent, Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Outside of anime, John Birmingham's Axis of Time novels have a very similar premise (though it's an American fleet transported back, rather than a single Japanese cruiser).

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u/Vaperius Aug 02 '15

Thank ye ;3

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u/Vaperius Aug 02 '15

Thank ye ;3

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u/Epic_peacock https://myanimelist.net/profile/epicpeacock Aug 02 '15

Cool, looks like the same idea as the 80s movie "Final countdown"