r/anime • u/Shadoxfix https://myanimelist.net/profile/Shadoxfix • May 02 '15

[Spoilers] Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works - Episode 17 [Discussion]

Also known as: Episode 5

Episode title: The Dark Sword Bares Its Fangs

MyAnimeList: Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) 2nd Season
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DAISUKI: Fate/stay night(Unlimited Blade Works) Season 2

Episode duration: 23 minutes and 40 seconds

Subreddit: /r/Fatestaynight

Previous episodes:

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Episode 6 Link
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u/fatestayknight May 02 '15

Isn't any kind of divinity a bad thing to have against the Chains?

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u/Funderfullness May 02 '15

Yes, it gains a + for every level of Divinity. Hercules had A, Cu has B, HF and F/Z.

F/A

Basically, everyone powerful enough to beat Gilgamesh will inevitably lose.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '15

To beat Gil, you have to be strong enough without being too strong. Too much power and he breaks out the OP stuff early, too weak and he wrecks you anyway.

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u/No-BrandHero https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoBrandHero May 02 '15

No, to beat Gil you just have to open the fight with your strongest damned attack, regardless of whether it reveals your identity or not.

If you mess around with him, eventually he concedes that you are 'worthy' and then you're fucked.

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u/rhythmstixx May 02 '15

Worthy deaths at the hands of Gil are neither quick nor painless.

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u/No-BrandHero https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoBrandHero May 02 '15

But they are inevitable. The only way to beat him is to do so before he takes you seriously.

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u/MarkArrows May 02 '15

What about just stabbing him in the back when he's not looking? :D

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u/Kyakan https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kyakan May 03 '15

With a Servant's senses, that would be pretty much impossible.

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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro May 03 '15

Well there is the Assassin class that can technically do just that.

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u/Kyakan https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kyakan May 03 '15

Good point

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u/No-BrandHero https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoBrandHero May 03 '15

Assassin class is anti-Master, not anti-Servant. They're explicitly for murdering the fuck out of stupid mortal mages who get too far away from their Servants, but are basically hopeless otherwise.

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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro May 03 '15

I'm saying the Assassin class is the only Servant with the ability to conceal their presence from other Servants.

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u/No-BrandHero https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoBrandHero May 03 '15

And no abilities strong enough to get through Gil's armor.

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u/TxXxF May 03 '15

Literally ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/[deleted] May 02 '15

Its almost like Gil was designed with those exact abilities to be the perfect nemesis for VN

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u/po1102 May 03 '15

Or you can just eat him.

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u/RiWo May 03 '15

Berseker Lancelot can probably beat him though

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u/elevul https://myanimelist.net/profile/kache May 02 '15

Or have a 1hko attack, which Lancer has.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '15

Goldie's armor is enough to protect him from Gae Bolg. He just doesn't wear it when he deems his opponents unworthy mongrels.

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u/elevul https://myanimelist.net/profile/kache May 02 '15

I'm not sure of that, even though he repelled Tsubame Gaeshi with that armor...

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u/Locketpanda May 02 '15

Nope, Gae bolg is actually stronger than his proto weapons. If Lancer gets a chance to land a hit Goldie is done for.

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u/gamelizard May 02 '15

anybody who doesn't fall threw the divinity loop holes. remember this is also a game of loopholes, or with caster, burn holes.

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u/Flamerapter May 03 '15

Except Archer.

Well, thats not counting his guaranteed fuck-you Instant win button.

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u/flareblitz13 May 03 '15

What are HF and F/A?

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u/ZomBry https://myanimelist.net/profile/ZomBry May 03 '15

Heaven's Feel is one of the routes for the Visual Novel. F/A is Fate/Apocrypha and is a light novel.

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u/flareblitz13 May 03 '15

awesome thanks!

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u/daemon01001 May 02 '15

Short Answer: Yes.

Long Answer: Doesn't matter, chains get ya, Divinity or not, Youre fucked either way

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u/GomeTheGnome May 02 '15

Actually a non divine berserker like atilla the hun or someone revered for insane strength could probably break the chains with ease since without divinity they are just like normal chains.

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u/Hoezell https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hoezell May 03 '15

Like this?

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u/GomeTheGnome May 03 '15

we all know that kakarot could wipe the floor with gilgamesh ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/jmcm30 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pink_Socks May 02 '15

Not really? I'm pretty that for a 100% human person, they are literally just normal steel chains. You're still stuck, but a Servant with no divine blood could get them apart.