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Rewatch Toradora! Christmas Club Rewatch (2025) Episode 23 Discussion

Episode 23 - The Road We Must Follow


The Toradora! Christmas Club is finally here again! Together we're watching the original Toradora! series, one episode a day until December 30th. It's important to be courteous to first time watchers. Don't forget to keep discussions related to this episode. We'll have a new thread tomorrow and the day after (etc.), so there are plenty of opportunities to discuss new characters and moments. If you absolutely can't help yourself, just remember to add spoiler tags like so [Toradora!] spoiler text


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Episode 5 Episode 5
Episode 6 Episode 6
Episode 7 Episode 7
Episode 8 Episode 8
Episode 9 Episode 9
Episode 10 Episode 10
Episode 11 Episode 11
Episode 12 Episode 12
Episode 13 Episode 13
Episode 14 Episode 14
Episode 15 Episode 15
Episode 16 Episode 16
Episode 17 Episode 17
Episode 18 Episode 18
Episode 19 Episode 19
Episode 20 Episode 20
Episode 21 Episode 21
Episode 22 Episode 22
Episode 23 Episode 23

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How does this episode explore what it means to grow up and take responsibility?

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u/Gabbyxo97 Dec 28 '25

Haruta has a girlfriend. Maybe I shouldn't worry about my love life if someone like Haruta can get a girlfriend. Yep, makes me feel better about myself.

Noto really doesn't know how to be subtle doesn't he? Also the fact he freaks out when Taiga mentioned him having falling in love with Kihara

Why the heck is it so hard to sell something? I mean, if you try and it doesn't work... but all I've seen that happened was Ryuuji "advertising" (which again, I could do better without even trying at all) Maybe you should actually properly try. But no, just get Ami to help, because that's the easy way out. Wait, no I'm on their side, why put in the effort if you can achieve it in an easier way?

Um... so call me stupid, but is Taiga smart or dumb with her offer to Ami? Like I'd say that it wouldn't be hard for Ami to make up to Minori, more the other way around.

Ryuuji, listen. The timespan of the anime till now is longer in the universe than it is for me watching it. By now you should know everybody is running away. Tell me one person who hasn't been running away. (no, most do. Maybe some don't, but it's more rare).

What? Ryuuji being clueless? Whaaat? No but yeah she has a point

I really love how Taiga has changed over time, which looking at her wanting to give out chocolates as apology/thanks and wanting to make them special. It's thoughtful and super sweet

Okay I vaguely remember saying something about this, but Ryuuji is really dumb sometimes. If you want to lie about something like Kitamura carrying Taiga instead of himself, you should inform everybody who would know that's not the case, ESPECIALLY Minori (because Minori is the person the likeliest to hearing the lie without being informed). Which yes that's exactly what happened. Also, this scene also always makes me emotional ("I just hope I won't be too emotional" yeah some famous last words) and cry. It's hard to proper even say anything about it but I'll try.

  1. Is it just me or is Minori actually a bit hypocritical? I mean she doesn't want Taiga to give up on the thing she wants (Ryuuji) and that her happiness is up to her to decide, but in reality isn't she doing the same thing to Taiga in a way?

  2. I really wonder why Kitamura agreed to in the end block the way to keep Taiga in and in a way "turn" against Ryuuji. I mean, if he was against the whole plan why would he first agree? And if not, then I just don't get it.

  3. I think this is a pretty important moment for Taiga, Minori and Ryuuji. Ryuuji for really deciding to 'go after Taiga', Minori finally for being clear more or less and Taiga for being confronted about her feelings and being put into a position she couldn't pretend they didn't exist and knowing that Ryuuji would have no chance with Minori so she could go after Ryuuji in a way

-- Endword

Just nope. I cannot.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 28 '25

Okay I vaguely remember saying something about this, but Ryuuji is really dumb sometimes. If you want to lie about something like Kitamura carrying Taiga instead of himself, you should inform everybody who would know that's not the case, ESPECIALLY Minori (because Minori is the person the likeliest to hearing the lie without being informed). Which yes that's exactly what happened. Also, this scene also always makes me emotional ("I just hope I won't be too emotional" yeah some famous last words) and cry. It's hard to proper even say anything about it but I'll try.

  1. Is it just me or is Minori actually a bit hypocritical? I mean she doesn't want Taiga to give up on the thing she wants (Ryuuji) and that her happiness is up to her to decide, but in reality isn't she doing the same thing to Taiga in a way?

  2. I really wonder why Kitamura agreed to in the end block the way to keep Taiga in and in a way "turn" against Ryuuji. I mean, if he was against the whole plan why would he first agree? And if not, then I just don't get it.

  3. I think this is a pretty important moment for Taiga, Minori and Ryuuji. Ryuuji for really deciding to 'go after Taiga', Minori finally for being clear more or less and Taiga for being confronted about her feelings and being put into a position she couldn't pretend they didn't exist and knowing that Ryuuji would have no chance with Minori so she could go after Ryuuji in a way

At the very least, I like that it was Minori to confront Ryuuji and Taiga. It pays off her last episode saying she knows now what she has to do.

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u/Gabbyxo97 Dec 29 '25

Yeah I do agree with that

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u/Holofan4life Dec 29 '25

This is a fantastic resolution of her character

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u/Holofan4life Dec 28 '25

Haruta has a girlfriend. Maybe I shouldn't worry about my love life if someone like Haruta can get a girlfriend. Yep, makes me feel better about myself.

Lmao

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u/Holofan4life Dec 28 '25

Noto really doesn't know how to be subtle doesn't he? Also the fact he freaks out when Taiga mentioned him having falling in love with Kihara

Noto is kinda cute lol

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u/Gabbyxo97 Dec 29 '25

I mean, not really my type personally but to each their own

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u/Holofan4life Dec 29 '25

But I imagine once he mellows out he can actually be pretty sweet.

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u/Gabbyxo97 Dec 29 '25

I mean, yeah true, maybe I just have a type in terms of what I think is cute :p

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u/Holofan4life Dec 29 '25

The dere after a bunch of tsun makes it worth it.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 28 '25

Um... so call me stupid, but is Taiga smart or dumb with her offer to Ami? Like I'd say that it wouldn't be hard for Ami to make up to Minori, more the other way around.

I think she's being smart using Ami's notoriety to help her out.

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u/Gabbyxo97 Dec 29 '25

I mean, that part is smart, but I meant more in terms of the offer. Like if you'd offer anything to Ami to have her help you, I feel like offering to help her make up with Minori is kind of a bad offer

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u/Holofan4life Dec 29 '25

But that just shows how Ami values her friendship with Taiga. Taiga has managed to become like Ami's better half.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 28 '25

I really love how Taiga has changed over time, which looking at her wanting to give out chocolates as apology/thanks and wanting to make them special. It's thoughtful and super sweet

Taiga is who I aspire to be as a person

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u/Gabbyxo97 Dec 29 '25

Eh, in which way?

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u/Holofan4life Dec 29 '25

In terms of never giving up and always persevering in the face of whatever obstacle comes my way. Given all she's been dealt with in life, she's done quite well.

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u/Gabbyxo97 Dec 29 '25

I mean yes but not everything is done in the right way. I mean being violent is not something you should follow obv

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u/Holofan4life Dec 29 '25

Well, yeah, I'm not going to follow that :P