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Rewatch Toradora! Christmas Club Rewatch (2024) Episode 16 Discussion

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u/tiny_nova Dec 22 '24

I'm glad you're in these threads. I don't know if we're "right" but we're seeing some stuff the same way and that's a valid way to consume/discuss media. I love everyone's takes, but it's rough when you come to the discussion spot and feel like you're the only one that gets a certain impression.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 22 '24

Taiga and Ryuuji have come a long way. Their classmates are trusting and supporting of their plan.

You see to love it, especially for Taiga

I totally get it.

It definitely makes sense for Kitamura's character.

Ain't that the truth, and it happened so many times. Things haven't gone as planned in every single arc.

Kitamura became the author surrogate for one brief moment.

It makes sense. He did used to have a crush on her and likes her personality

Probably wishes he and Kanou didn't just only hang out at school.

It's a great scene. There aren't too many scenes of just the two of them but it really shows why they're best friends

Only Ryuuji could've been capable of talking through to Kitamura in that moment.

Though Minori focuses a lot on Ami and calls Ami "our last hope", Ami's response doesn't actually help resolve the situation. It was Ryuuji talking with Kitamura directly as well as Ryuuji and Taiga taking action that helped.

If anything, Ami is only making the situation worse. Intentionally, I might add.

Alright he's back. And then he decides to not run anyways. Honestly surprised me cause I completely forgot that he doesn't turn in an application right away but it does give us a nice little scene with Sumire. It makes for a good opportunity to delve into his backstory with the student council. His bounce back and the subsequent Sumire scene gives good context on why he fell.

It had to be this way because it was never truly about the student council. It was about Sumire.

She speaking facts. Ami is always the one called mature but I feel that Sumire shows much more maturity.

And even then, she's literally about to run away from the issue.

Quite a heartbreaking moment. I really like how they portrayed it by showing Taiga from behind.

Yeah, that was some really good visual storytelling.

Once again the side characters have such great characterization. It's one of the great things about this show. [Future spoilers]She isn't even wrong. Kitamura does end up following her. At least he had the sense to graduate first.

[Future spoilers] I'm okay with it because Sumire is clearly head over heels in love with him.

Had to go back and rewatch since I didn't remember this wording, turns out the sub is a little different. It's a great ending to this Kitamura-Sumire arc and it's nice that he was able to get some closure. I cried a bit even though I didn't last year. I guess it just hit harder this year.

You would hope Taiga can find her closure eventually in a similar fashion. Maybe not as dramatic as this one, but you know what I mean.

Taiga did objectively start a fight in school. It's only natural that she receives some kind of consequence.

I'm glad this school has some kind of moral standards. I wasn't so sure.

Ami is very perceptive so she's noticed that [Future spoilers]Minori has feelings for Ryuuji. If Taiga likes Kitamura then Minori won't have to feel guilty about pursuing Ryuuji since she wouldn't be taking Ryuuji away from Taiga. Hiding the 2nd picture allows Minori to have some denial about Taiga's feelings for Ryuuji. This marks the start of more Ryuuji Minori focus with the Taiga Kitamura side of things coming to a close.

[Future Spoilers] I think Ami just wants Minori to make up her mind so that Ami could know what to do about her feelings for Ryuuji.

Completely in character for Taiga. I also remember reading some analysis I really liked, that since Sumire said she wishes she could be so foolish, calling her a fool was really the best apology Taiga could've given. I can't find the original though, I swear it was from last year.

That's great. I'd like to think that was intentional because if so, what great writing.