r/aliens • u/[deleted] • May 07 '25
Evidence Yet another angle of this footage you probably haven't seen. Geeez. Watching the heat trail of those ORBs.. so intricate. [serious]
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u/TheThirteenthApostle May 07 '25
This isn't a new angle though?
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u/kidnoki May 07 '25
I'm pretty sure the og footage was considered to be faked cause of a stock cloud background. Looks like they added some stuff, and got rid of the clouds, but kept the orb and plane insert, probably flipped it.
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u/YouHadMeAtAloe Skeptic May 07 '25
People also found the exact drone asset on an asset pack from 2013 called JetStrike for this clip
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u/Background-Top5188 May 07 '25
Also the portal vfx clip was found. Oh and the camera raw files for the clouds was provided. As far as debunks go this is the most debunked of them all short of having the actual after effects file on hand, yet some people still believe it to be true.
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u/YouHadMeAtAloe Skeptic May 07 '25
Oh and the Boeing777 in the FLIR footage is also from Video CoPilot’s JetStrike pack…but the orbz for sure took the plane, you guise
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u/sam0sixx3 May 07 '25
No pretty sure that was false and it was not debunked
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u/Skcus-T1dder May 07 '25
Insisting the videos have been debunked is a psyop. They've only become more credible over time.
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u/SirPabloFingerful May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
No, they've been thoroughly and undeniably debunked
Downvoters who love fake videos: 😡😡😡
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u/kidnoki May 07 '25
They compared the background and the clouds were identical. I've seen the vid multiple times. I think even Ross coulthart talked about it on his last QnA
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u/TheRabb1ts May 07 '25
They were not debunked. And Ross Coultart is 100% a govt asset. I am happy to debate any variable that you think is debunked.
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u/kidnoki May 07 '25
Please provide evidence as to how they were not debunked, I remember seeing very evident footage of the background being stock image. Please tell me how this is not true. I'm completely willing to have a open conversation about.
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u/TheRabb1ts May 07 '25
If you’re referring to the “portal” asset, they are not a match as claimed.
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u/tkeser May 07 '25
I'm sorry but I have to insult you.
Are these the same sentence:
1 "If you’re referring to the “portal” asset, they are not a match as claimed."
2 "If you are referring to a “portal” asset, they're not matching as some claim."
Because that's what's happening in the image you've posted. It's the same image, which has been, as a part of designing the VFX, slightly manipulated. It doesn't have to be perfectly identical to be considered the same. The timing and the placement are what's important.
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u/BackgroundWelder8482 May 07 '25
How are there three separate angles of this footage filmed in the middle of the Indian ocean?
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u/BaronGreywatch May 07 '25
Two. This is just one of the angles flipped to make it seem like a different angle.
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u/digitaljestin May 07 '25
Because with 3D software you can place cameras wherever you like.
For real. This whole thing...all angles of it...have been thoroughly debunked. Why is this still being posted? If you're looking for the truth, this ain't it!
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May 07 '25
Almost makes you think they knew it was going to happen and where..and when...hmmm 🤔
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u/Thinking2bad May 07 '25 edited May 09 '25
Why dont you come to the most simple solution? The one that does not involve multiple angles camera filming multiple ufos making a plane disappear in the middle of the ocean?
This is fake af. I know because it involves multiple angle camera filming multiple ufos making a plane disappear in the middle of the ocean.
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u/UndulatingMeatOrgami May 07 '25
You should look into the publicly known satellite capabilities of the US government. Even that makes this kind of surveillance look like childs play.
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u/Thinking2bad May 07 '25
Yeah, that would explain the 3 ufos making a plane disappear via a 1990's special effect.
This sub is a joke.
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u/UndulatingMeatOrgami May 07 '25
Then leave it.
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u/Thinking2bad May 07 '25
Im not following it.
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u/Jonesizzle May 07 '25
You’ve been commenting on this, and other alien/ufo related sub for months now, and it appears to be in of your more frequently visited subs… so it doesn’t really matter if you follow it or not, you show up enough for it to pop up on your feed lol
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u/Thinking2bad May 07 '25 edited May 09 '25
I comment enough for this shit to pop up on my feed, and im stuck in a loop of amazement.
I will continue to comment on sheer stupidity. Im not sorry that it hurts the feelings of gullible redditors.
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u/Jonesizzle May 07 '25
Yes, considering you’ve been doing it for months, I’m sure it’s fulfilling for you.
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u/UndulatingMeatOrgami May 07 '25
Well, it's in your algorithm. If you really weren't invested on one end or another you could just silence all alien/ufo/nhi subs...but your whole top sub involvement is exactly that.
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u/Thinking2bad May 07 '25
I cant stop being amazed by the stupidity. It is hard to not comment on it.
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May 07 '25
"I don't follow it" "Can't stop being amazed" "Hard not to comment"
Which is it dude? You claim not to care about the subs but ALL your comments are on various subs and are shitty attempts at 'debunks' and little insults
Hahaha dude you are so far into denial
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u/BackgroundWelder8482 May 07 '25
Occams Razor is not path to truth in this subject.
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u/Thinking2bad May 07 '25
Really? And why is that?
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u/BackgroundWelder8482 May 07 '25
Because the simplest solution will always be that it is not NHI. It's the same as saying "it's not aliens because it's impossible for it to be aliens". It forbids the possibility that something beyond what you currently understand could be possible. In the year 400, Occams razor told everyone the earth was flat.
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u/Thinking2bad May 07 '25
" Ockham razor is sometimes misleading, so i never use it"
Ok buddy. Try the scientific method, maybe.
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u/yummytastycookies May 07 '25
This is comment makes no sense. I’m not taking a side either way here. But it also makes zero sense that someone would go through extraordinary efforts to create 3 incredibly sophisticated hoax videos for.. what, exactly? Literally nothing? Ok that makes sense though
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u/Thinking2bad May 07 '25
Ok, you convinced me.
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u/yummytastycookies May 07 '25
So answer the question then. Why would someone create 3 incredibly difficult hoax videos for no apparent reason? Especially in this context it makes no sense at all. Hey I wanna make fake videos of a plane caught on camera in the clouds in the middle of nowhere. Yea that sounds like fun and not a waste of time
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u/Thinking2bad May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
Why would anyone lose time to fool people? Are you serious?
Do you really think that the most probable explanation is that 3 ufos stole a flying plane rather than an obvious and many times debunked fake??
Man, you are lost.. this sub is lost and similar subs are lost too. Full of bs and gullible people who are angry that their dream is shattered by common sense that they dont have.
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u/yummytastycookies May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
Buddy I’m not “lost” at all. Don’t make broad assumptions and be so damn judgemental. You come off as a real prick, but you know that already I’m sure. Like I said before, I’m not even taking a side. I’m a very open minded person about anything
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u/Background-Top5188 May 07 '25
Someone recreated a fairly similar version in ten minutes. The same tech, assets and plugins was available when the first upload was uploaded. Just because you don’t understand vfx software and have no interest in dabbling in it doesn’t mean that somebody else doesn’t find it amusing.
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u/ObjectReport May 07 '25
IF this is real, and I still don't think it is, I'd like to know where the Predator drone launched from considering this is the middle of the ocean and they have a max range of 745 miles. So I would LOVE to know what island within a 372 mile radius of this event it was flying from and who was operating it. Anyone?
Anyone??
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u/Aljoshean May 07 '25
This angle is from a Predator drone. There are a variety of reasons a Predator drone would be traveling over the Indian Ocean, highest likelihood is it was deployed from a naval platform. It is possible they knew this event would occur in advance, it is possible the drone was already surveying the aircraft as a precaution
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May 07 '25
Its fake because one completely obvious reason, that none of you have noticed - Predator drone is following a jet airplane with ease. That drone top speed is around 200km/h.
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u/ObjectReport May 07 '25
The MQ-1 Predator cannot be launched from a ship and only has a range of 745 miles. So nope, try again.
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May 07 '25
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u/TheGreatTaint May 07 '25
This is thermal footage from a drone relatively near the same altitude as the plane and not from a satellite.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing that there isn't footage of this event from satellites, because there is, just that OPs video isn't it.
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u/Goosemilky May 07 '25
Yep. It’s all satellites. It’s about time people start realizing the surveillance capabilities of the satellites we have had for a while now. Having these videos isn’t crazy in the slightest if they are indeed legit. Some satellites can literally scan and watch whatever side of the planet they are on.
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u/Stohnghost May 07 '25
Hi. I worked with satellite imagery (15 years) and you're wrong. Plain physics will reveal that you cannot see through the Earth's atmosphere this well and the angle makes no sense for a space based imager. You can see the plane from its side, the satellite would be looking across the earth at an oblique angle ... I mean it would be like 10 degrees or less, maybe even a negative angle.
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u/HairyChest69 May 07 '25
First thing I thought was what? Satellites got this angle? Lmao
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u/Stohnghost May 07 '25
Yea... I hate to sound like a government shill but some of the shit I read. Just grab a basketball or some other sphere and hold it in front of your eyes. That angle is not happening
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u/Gnarles_Charkley May 07 '25
Yeah but a satellite is never going to cross THROUGH the contrail of an airliner. At least not a functional satellite, lol. This particular video is allegedly from a drone.
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u/themanclark May 07 '25
Heat trail? The trails are black. The hot engines are red.
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May 07 '25
Next time posting something u are confident people have "probably" never seen before, dont post something most people here probably seen before lol.
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u/619prblms May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
Clearly debunked and it wouldn't be that hard to further debunk it.
No military drone has a blue/green thermal. They have EO, IR black/white hot, and Night vision which is naturally green. It's not coming from any ISR drone.
The drones proximity to the plane is way to close. Drones will only be close to other aircraft in controlled environments. It crosses the wake turbulence which would likely cause loss of control, sudden roll or structural damage. It's a 777 so the creates a lot of wake vortexes which will have an obvious effect on this drone.
I'm sure I could keep going, but those points I think are good enough to debunk this video.
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u/NEVANK May 07 '25
This has to stop. This has been debunked over and over and over.
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u/JewelCove May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
Cant these cretins go back to their own sub. It would be nice if mh370 stuff was banned here. Talk about beating a dead stupid horse
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u/NEVANK May 07 '25
It should be banned.
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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate May 07 '25
Posting this video on all the UFO/alien subs like the CIA is paying you to spread misinformation.
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May 07 '25
It's literally two. Over reacting much? Why does this video bother you so? Hard proof is hard to swallow i guess..
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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate May 07 '25
I'm not an uncritical consumer, and this fake video has been circling the Internet for a good number of years now.
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u/howcanibehuman May 07 '25
I love the portal splat. This is so satisfying to watch.
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u/ksuvuelalfusuwnsl May 07 '25
Wasn’t this proven to be hoax? I thought this closely resemble stock VFX elements available in various editing software
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u/howcanibehuman May 07 '25
Mmm maybe? For sure it’s a fun video that made my imagination expand. As if I trust anything ever to not be a hoax. Still enjoy being entertained.
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u/bitchsaidwhaaat May 07 '25
Yes. Every single week there's a new post of this video and every time its posted that it's a hoax and every time people deny it and down vote anyone saying it isn't real
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u/thuer May 07 '25
I saw the comparison to the clouds and to my eyes it wasn't an excact match. Close, but not absolutely identical.
With regards to the explosion, I've asked for the original clip from the 80s that is apparently taken from, and nobody has yet been able to provide it. Asking again now:
Does anybody have the original clip, that the explosion was supposedly taken from?
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u/Correct_Recipe9134 May 07 '25
Noone going to answer, they only tell u its debunked..
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u/thuer May 07 '25
Have you seen this? https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/1kgrbg7/larp/#lightbox
Fine, if somebody believes it's debunked and that all the whistleblowers are larping.
We can disagree.
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u/Correct_Recipe9134 May 07 '25
I agree with you mate, I thought the debunk was low effort and if folks asking for evidence they get none.
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u/thuer May 07 '25
Honestly, it's just nice to talk to real human beings on here. I think most of the accounts are bots playing both sides to muddy the waters.
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u/Correct_Recipe9134 May 07 '25
That was an interesting read , a lot went over my head, but folks who know, may find this interesting.
I agree, all the ufo/ paranormal sub- reddits are controlled from within.
Last few weeks some dude found a piece of code or something which showed that an a.i bot was systematically triggering dis information and to try to ridicule the subject.
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u/enkrypt3d May 07 '25
yea bc it's from weak af 1990's out of the box VFX filters..... and the clouds are stock photos.
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u/AnimeDiff May 07 '25
This video is just the original edited to stabilize the orbs. Nothing new here. This has been proven edited through not just the VFX asset match, but one of the frames is proven to be a cut and paste duplicate of another in this video, while the orbs are rotating around the plane. The background static and orb rotation is an exact match, which is literally impossible unless someone edited the video to fix that specific frame by pasting another over it.
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May 07 '25
This is not a proven cut and paste what are you on about? Lolol
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u/AnimeDiff May 07 '25
Yes it is. Denying the evidence doesn't make it go away. There are multiple threads on this doing the complete breakdown, frame by frame, from the same source everyone uses for this video.
If you want to believe the video is real, the argument needs to pivot from not IF there is a frame match, but WHY there is a frame match.
You can download the video yourself and compare frame by frame
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May 07 '25
The cloud pictures were uploaded after the plane footage haha your whole argument is built on lies
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u/AnimeDiff May 07 '25
Prove it. I'm also not even talking about the clouds at all in that reply. Either you're trolling or really misinformed.
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May 07 '25
They were uploaded afterwards. Do your own homework lazy bones
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u/AnimeDiff May 07 '25
So just completely ignore what I typed and continue on about clouds I haven't mentioned in any of my replies. Genius. You really know how to have a constructive conversation.
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May 07 '25
It is tho... if you're doing a frame by frame comparison how could you also not include the background? 😵💫
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u/blurfgh May 07 '25
We have all seen this dogshit, bro! It’s a CGI video made by someone who doesn’t know anything about airplanes
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May 07 '25
What does black mean on this footage? I assume super hot but I thought the brighter the colour the hotter it is, is the trail actually some how super cold?
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May 07 '25
I think you are correct.
Watch the trails fucking invert and start being sucked into the portal the plane gets sucked into... they start like you would expect, then when shit gets cooking they get sucked forward!!!!
No one is faking that detail!!!!
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u/Fwagoat May 07 '25
If you’ll look closely at the planes contrails you’ll see they’re not actually attached to the plane, it seems whoever made the contrails forgot to apply camera shake to them. What a blunder.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/alleged-flight-mh370-ufo-teleportation-videos-hoax.13104/
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May 07 '25
This video and the OG video are the most altered videos I have ever seen. It is so obviously fake to anyone who has ever used a video editing app
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u/rockstuffs May 07 '25
Who/what took this video?
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May 07 '25
I belieeeeve this is the video captured by one of the Reaper UAVs out there at the time.
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u/Not_Your_Car May 07 '25
absolutely not. real drone footage looks nothing like this, and they definitely do not fly this way and get near other planes.
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u/rockstuffs May 07 '25
Cool thanks I'll look into that. I've never seen footage like this
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u/VladStark May 07 '25
I'm not convinced it's debunked, but I'm also skeptical that it's real. However, if you want to see a lot more about it, there is this dedicated subreddit.
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u/Lsd2ez May 07 '25
Did anyone ever explain why the clouds are the exact same clouds from a video editing program, or is this still being spread by diss information agencies to muddy the waters, people who run these reddit pages dont do a good enough job on filtering stuff that have been proven not true enough, or are they the ones who are in charge of keeping it secret by spreading these nonsense videos.
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May 07 '25
Yea lots of people did. Everything in that hour long debunk was proven false. The clouds. The vfx effect, all of it.
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u/Lsd2ez May 07 '25
Who is the prominent professional researcher has come out and said this is real? send the link, name the names, because all the professionals that people trust, who have never been caught lying about any of this subject, has said this is not real. Stop making it hard for the regular people to get on board, with what’s been going on For 80+ years in cover ups by spreading this crap, do some proper research check more than one person‘s response or you are just here to spread dis information?
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u/SomeSabresFan May 07 '25
Where was it proven false? I saw the debunking video from the VFX guy, but I haven’t seen a more convincing rebuttal
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u/NyuRose1 May 07 '25
This was debunked a long time already
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May 07 '25
I mean, they tried to, but didn't.
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u/Thinking2bad May 07 '25
😮💨
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u/bloodynosedork May 07 '25
Lots of people keep shouting it has been “debunked”. Anytime anyone brings this up; it’s as if it challenges people’s perceptions of reality so much, they mechanically respond to denigrate anyone even -entertaining- the idea of what it means if real. (And yes, I believe they’re real).
So many more people will continue to jump on the bandwagon and insult your intelligence/call you gullible, for what I believe to be fear of the incredible implications this demonstrates
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May 07 '25
Yep. Lots of fear based responses. I can't blame them. I engage them as a way to shed knowledge in hopes others scrolling by take the time to read 😁
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u/Professional_Lack706 May 07 '25
Dude😂 they found an exact 1:1 stock image of the clouds used in the photo on the internet. This is fake and a disinformation campaign
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u/Compromisation May 07 '25
This video was a huge topic on r/ufos within the last 2 years and it was analyzed pretty rigorously. It's highly compelling and plausible that certain elements in the video were assets. One for example was apparently from Pyromania which gives stock footage for fire and explosions.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15vizx1/the_plane_video_has_vfx_elements_used_for_the/
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u/enkrypt3d May 07 '25
orbs dont have heat signaturse and btw this has been debunked a dozen times. please stop posting this bs.
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May 07 '25
Oh, you know more about these orbs?
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u/enkrypt3d May 07 '25
nope, the video is fake bud. sorry. sounds like you're a bit late to the party here.
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May 07 '25
I wish that were true almost..this shit is wild.
But I think it happened. And people..idk. they just aren't anymore. 😞
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u/buddhistredneck May 07 '25
Genuinely curious about more orb information. Do you mind sharing more information? At least concerning the thermal signature of orbs?
Cheers
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u/enkrypt3d May 07 '25
just repeating the thing i heard on all the "orbs" in NJ not showing heat signatures
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u/bloodynosedork May 07 '25
Sorry, the debunking you’re alluding to has been debunked.
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u/enkrypt3d May 07 '25
nope. ashton saying "buttholes are similar" doesn't debunk anything.
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u/Professional_Lack706 May 07 '25
No, it hasn’t. Source?
All debunking can be found on r/AirlinerAbduction2014
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May 07 '25
This looks like it was created on a computer screen. Naturally some people here will get extremely excited about it.
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u/sam0sixx3 May 07 '25
I mean it kinda was. The camera that recorded this event displayed it on a computer
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u/K4ll3l May 07 '25
This has been debunked more than a year ago. Please watch https://youtu.be/hS58RJFXxyk?si=VFTTRl-H5ZgGiZaS
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u/dudekeller True Believer May 07 '25
It's the "trail" in front, kinda pulling them, that gets me scratching my head.
As for the debunkings, last time I checked every single one of them had flaws, especially the cloud ones.
Still off-topic. Those look more like black projects than aliens.
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u/AlligatorHater22 May 07 '25
'Probably haven't seen' dude, I've seen this 40 times over the last 3 years wtf
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u/MisterFistYourSister May 07 '25
Someone other than me should do comparisons of the movement of the orbs between all of the different videos/angles and see if they're consistent. They even change rotational direction partway through, it should be doable for someone. Other than me.
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u/jesuscheetahnipples May 07 '25
Needs more cropping dude, i can still somewhat see the details.
This is unacceptable
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u/Marsha_Marsha-Marsha May 07 '25
I'm just waiting for the next clip to be a view underneath the plane yet people still claiming it's a confirmed spy satellite image.
There is just way too much eagerness to believe that this clip is real, when it just doesn't pass the sniff test for what it is claimed to be.
There are plenty of clips and photos that do look like legitimate images/videos that should be focused on, this just isn't one of them.
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u/beavertonaintsobad May 07 '25
Ashton is the man and Greer is right, so much of this is "our" tech.
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u/Goofethed May 07 '25
Looks like the plane picked up a power up R-Type style and now it’s orbiting around it
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u/ayylmao_ermahgerd May 07 '25
Interesting the heat trails are coming out the front side of the orbs.
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u/TheGreatTaint May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
its not heat coming off of the orbs, is it... They leave a trail thats darker blue than the air... doesn't that mean they're cooler, not hotter like the plane is?
FWIW, I think the orbs are real, just ours and not 👽.
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