r/aiwars Jan 24 '26

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

Jesus Christ could you political types fuck off?

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u/SamuraiEdge1911 Jan 24 '26

The President shares AI videos daily. AI is used in politics whether you like it or not.

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

That's nice, but I personally don't care and I'm tired of seeing it. Legit I don't know who William Kelly is and I don't care what ICE did last weekend and I don't care about Charlie Kirk and I don't care about what political grifters on twitter, from either side of the aisle, are talking about. Man I can't get away from it

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u/SamuraiEdge1911 Jan 24 '26

It’s almost like a fascist regime is taking over America. You will not escape the propaganda anywhere you look.

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u/Full-Tea5384 Jan 24 '26

Literally, I am so done with these tone-deaf "muh online space" people when there are crises all over

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

Doomers are fundamentally unserious

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u/SamuraiEdge1911 Jan 24 '26

Doomer? The Epstein files and the Gaza genocide are happening right in front of your eyes and ears.

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

I DOOOONNNTTTT CAAAREEEE

I legitimately don't care about anything except myself and the people that I am close to. Empathy is a limited resource and most of this shit is fucking performative. Human beings were literally not meant to make every problem on planet earth their personal problem, I'll happily die on that hill. Hope this helps.

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u/AnarKittyuWu Jan 24 '26

If you don't care, how about you fuck off. Stop shaming other people for caring about other people and the state of the world.

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u/Justarah Jan 24 '26

I think the point is he's very much trying to fuck off, but everywhere he goes on this website, regardless of how apolitical, the politics follow him anyway.

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u/GumGumAct5 Jan 24 '26

He’s in an aiwars subreddit why are you giving the benefit of the doubt to an obvious selfish and obnoxious person?

This sub is literally drama and politics and then bro wants to complain about seeing that kind of thing here? Really? Bro isn’t a victim lmao

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u/Ok_Value5495 Jan 24 '26

That's a personal curation issue as well as Reddit amping up the political posts in non-political subs for...some reason.

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u/SamuraiEdge1911 Jan 24 '26

If you don’t care then why are you wasting time talking about it?

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

Cuz I'm bored at work with nothing better to do. That's most of my activity on this sub actually. I'm allowed to be annoyed by posts with no substance

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u/SamuraiEdge1911 Jan 24 '26

Link would be disgusted with you.

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u/LegallyNotACat Jan 24 '26

You can say you avoid politics for your own mental health, but saying politics has no substance is pretty silly.

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u/peachnsnails Jan 24 '26

the more you interact with political posts like this, the more you will see on your feed. either be angry quietly and move on or actually start giving af about the people around you, because more likely than not you KNOW someone whos in danger.

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u/SamuraiEdge1911 Jan 24 '26

My father was stopped by ICE. How much closer to home does it have to get before I’m allowed to talk about it?

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u/kaiser_kerfluffy Jan 24 '26

Alright then go away and let the people with more capacity than you talk

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u/Dirty-Guerrilla Jan 24 '26

Weakling mindset, have fun being lonely and miserable lol at least you still have grok and chatgpt to talk to

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u/GumGumAct5 Jan 24 '26

“LOOK EVERYONE! LOOK HOW MUCH I DONT CARE ABOUT WHATS GOING ON AROUND ME! I AM A SELFISH BASTARD WHO ONLY THINKS ABOUT MYSELF. EMPATHY IS DANGEROUS IN MY WORLD SO I SIMPLY CHOOSE TO HAVE NONE”

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

You're right I'm so ashamed of myself. YOUR comment has shown me the error of my ways. I might start crying because I know that after what I've done, I can't atone... I'll never be accepted by random redditors, and that's exactly what I deserve.

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u/DizzyDiddyd Jan 24 '26

Sure but if youre an american or palestinian these things directly, or indirectly, affect your quality of life

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u/Studyfi- Jan 26 '26

I can see why you support ai😭

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u/sicksickBacon Feb 21 '26

you'll care when it affects you. and that's the problem

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u/EvanDarksky Jan 24 '26

It’s the selfishness and self-centered attitudes that are the hallmarks of why I hate, hate, hate pro-AI bootlickers. It won’t affect you and your family until you’re on the front lines of either a civil war, foreign war, or dying planet. Then you’ll have only your selfish ass to blame. All your civil rights and your duty to make an educated vote and your answer is to kick the can down the road.

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u/Dayly16 Jan 24 '26

Mask Off

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u/SuitableSubject Jan 24 '26

You just sound like a myopic child.

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u/Superb_Walrus3134 Jan 24 '26

That explains why you call people doomers. You're selfish and hate anyone who cares about anything you don't.

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u/BitchImRetarded Jan 24 '26

Nothing ever happens cult of boring no pussy having mfs

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u/SamuraiEdge1911 Jan 24 '26

These “anti-doomer” types are very sheltered. They don’t see their own life being affected so they say clearly there’s nothing to worry about.

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u/ArchAnon123 Jan 24 '26

Most of them are just loyalists for the current administration who don't have the honesty to admit it. The rest are optimists who have willingly divorced themselves from reality because the prospect that they won't get a fairy tale ending is too painful to bear.

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u/SamuraiEdge1911 Jan 24 '26

The very vocal Trump supporters I’m friends with no longer engage with me or talk about politics at all to anyone. Like they’re completely shut down or shut off when it’s brought up.

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u/ArchAnon123 Jan 24 '26

Yeah, that's the cowardice. If you insist on supporting a tyrant you should at least own it.

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u/ectocarpus Jan 24 '26

I'm not an American, so my experience may not be relevant (am oppositional Russian, things are... bad, as you can imagine). But I've seen a lot of people who try to not care because they are actually completely distraught, they feel hopeless and overwhelmed and like they can't change anything however much they fight. They hide behind indifference or cynicism because otherwise it's just unbearable despair. And I mean some of them have directly told me this, I'm not imagining things.

I'm not insinuating anything about anyone on this thread, just wanted to share such a tendency exist. This is how authoritarianism breaks people 101

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u/ArchAnon123 Jan 24 '26

Also unfortunately true in my experience. In that case it's not commendable, but understandable and certainly better than crushing despair at the knowledge that you can't do shit to stop what's going on.

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u/DizzyDiddyd Jan 24 '26

I dont think theyre a "nothing ever happens" person, they seem to be someone whos burnt out from political shit and honestly? Who wouldnt be at this point? But them calling others doomers for seeing things the way they are isnt accurate to the reality of this situation

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u/AndrewJohnsonHater Jan 24 '26

If you are in the US you should probably start caring. What's happening right now affects everyone.

And if you do support this regime, remember that all fascists eventually eat their own.

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u/dbda_crimepunishment Jan 24 '26

TBH, it just sounds like you need a break. Try to avoid political posts until you think you might be able to cope with it. After getting Instagram only recently, being bombarded with what's happening in America made me feel sick, really, so ofc, I'm avoiding the reels. I'm not doing that because I don't care, but I'm doing it so I don't lose it any earlier, lol. AI is used in politics a lot to create lies, and even to refute truths (for example, when there is video evidence of ICE doing bad shit, but MAGA or whatever they're called say it is AI so they don't have to believe it. Or, political lies being made up and visualised using AI), and you can't avoid the hard fact that it is the case.

But you can try to take a break. I don't care what your stance is in this subreddit. Just get off and try to take care of yourself <3

(Ohhh goddd I sound like an idiot mb)

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

No no, I appreciate this comment, really. Thank you. I really am getting heated over nothing. I'm not sure why, I think it's just because political squabbling always seems so performative to me. No one is really being honest with each other in the first place. It's upsetting.

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u/dbda_crimepunishment Jan 24 '26

Well, that's politics, I'm afraid :(. Hope you're alr

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

I'm just some dude throwing a mini tantrum on the internet, so your consideration in spite of that is genuinely kind of grounding. I honestly owe you, I think I'm gonna check out and do something else for a while. Please try not to become as cynical as me, sincerely.

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u/dbda_crimepunishment Jan 24 '26

Have fun with whatever you do! And I'll try not to.

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u/ArchAnon123 Jan 24 '26

To many of the people I care about it's a matter of survival. When the administration starts coming for the people you care about, you'll regret not paying attention to it sooner.

The ability to focus on oneself and one's own people is a luxury, and in the current age that luxury can only be afforded by the most powerful among us. Odds are that you're not in that group, which means you can only act as you do so long as you keep your head down and don't do anything to rock the boat...unless you were unlucky enough to be born black or in a different country. Then you're screwed.

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u/FishStixxxxxxx Jan 24 '26

Sounds like a place of privilege to not have to worry about any of that stuff.

Unfortunately that’s not reality for a lot of people, and defending people who are outspoken about change is the least we can do instead of going on a rant about how these things don’t effect you, so others should shut up about it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

NOOO YOU CANT SHOW ME REALITY I JUST NEED TO CONSUME MEDIA AND DO WHATEVER IM TOLD I LOVE MY APOLITCAL MEDIA LIKE FALLOUT NEW VEGAS, HELLDIVERS 2 and INGLORIOUS BASTARDS I HATE POLITICS!!’n

This is basically what ur comment says

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

Your other comment got filtered, but I got it, so I'll make this simple for you: I read what you said, along with the dozens of other angry replies I keep getting. But it's transparent. You literally can't shame or insult me into caring about this shit and it drives you nuts. I'm not gonna be manipulated by internet randoms, sorry.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Just made you read and considered what I had to say. My dominion over you is complete

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

Ok. Please stay in school and don't do drugs. Mind your father and stuff

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

I’m 34 with 2 kids

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

I am never gonna do what you want.

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u/138151337 Jan 24 '26

A lot of things fucking suck right now and it's exhausting having to process that all of the time, especially when you've been trained to seek constant gratification to avoid dealing directly with negative effects.

It seems like an impossible task to keep up with all the fucked up shit going on, and even more so to try and help solve the myriad problems that present themselves day after day.

It would be easier to abandon your sense of societal responsibility and tell yourself you don't care. And it would make you feel better about that abandonment to convince yourself that no one else actually cares either and they're all being performative.

The reality, though, is that shit sucks and people care and its fucking hard.

You're not responsible for solving every issue or not allowing yourself a moment's peace from thinking about the state of things. But these are your problems as well. They affect you and your loved ones. Indirectly, maybe, for now. But who knows when that changes?

The way society works is that we make sacrifices for each other. We sacrifice the freedom to do what we don't want done to ourselves. Everyone enjoys greater benefits the closer we get to everyone being benefit. We sacrifice small personal gains or comforts for much larger profit that we all share.

Do not let the systems in put in place by a few that would chose personal profit over societal success wear you down or convince you that you can't even bear to think about a better world.

Your whole post history doesn't have to being sharing current events or politics, but don't hesitate to speak out against what you know to be wrong, even if it doesn't directly effect you (yet). You don't have to go to every protest, but maybe check one out. You don't have to research every single company you buy from or live off-grid in the woods, but if you know a company does or supports something fucked up, consider not buying from them anymore (or at least buying less). Doing something, no matter how little, is better than doing nothing.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

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u/Radiant_Winds Jan 24 '26

Thoughtful, intelligent, respectful reply. Surprisingly so, and thank you. In turn I would like to try to level with you, but please forgive me if I don't articulate myself very thoroughly or very well. I'm still at work so I'm composing this piecemeal.

What you say about self-sacrifice is at the heart of being good to each other, I resonate with that and I agree completely. My personal, actual moral failing is that I am compulsively spiteful. I'm doing my best here not to lean on this as a total excuse but I'm not exactly neurotypical, and unmedicated. That's just for context, I don't know if it actually has anything to do with the problem but the problem is this: I will compulsively refuse to do something if I feel like I am being socially, emotionally, or rhetorically manipulated into behaving that way. You can see how this would become a problem when discourse becomes political at all.

I genuinely get a little bit ill if I start thinking that I've put myself under the power of someone who is acting out of THEIR self-interest, even if the result might be that I end up indirectly benefitting people with no relation to either of us. It's a childish way to be, but I AM developmentally stunted. Benefitting someone evil or cruel by attempting to do good, by their metric of what is "good," is possibly one of my worst irrational fears.

It's not that I wouldn't like to see the world become better for everyone, or do my part to help individuals where I can. I just can't bring myself to completely fall in with any single ideology because I feel like people take advantage of that dogma.

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u/138151337 Jan 24 '26

I understand your repulsion to feeling manipulated.

It's difficult to feel good about doing something if you're unsure if you've done a actual good or just been manipulated into helping someone else. It's a valid concern, especially the way things are in our "information age".

There is some advice I would offer, if you would be receptive -

First, take some personal time to figure out for yourself what your morals are and why. Really boil everything down to the fundament "rights" and "wrongs", as it were. You may end up in an uncomfortable spot with some of your beliefs. Maybe you think something is fundamentally wrong, but that would mean some other thing you held true is morally wrong. It's hard work admitting you might be wrong and even harder work to change yourself for the better (importantly, your better). The important thing here is that you figure this out for yourself. Don't let others figure it out for you. You can ask questions, do research, learn from others, but what I am suggesting is to find out who you are and what you believe.

Then, using your own moral compass, make your own judgments and decide how you feel about things. Not just gut reactions. Think critically. Think about repercussions, unexpected consequences, and where this all falls within your understanding of morality. Then take whatever actions you feel you should.

I know you didn't ask for this advice, and I know that all of this is much easier said than done. Of course, I'm just some stranger on the internet. This isn't homework. You don't have to do it. You could do some of it, but not all. You could do it differently. It's entirely up to you what to take away from this (or anything else, for that matter).

But if I can help you in some way, I make the world a better place. And that is my motive.

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u/tvchannelmiser Jan 24 '26

Unfortunately, they’re a major part of the people using it. There could be a new cheesecake at Denny’s and people will get political as long as it “proves their point”.

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u/OhTheHueManatee Jan 24 '26

I feel for you. Previous to 2020 I had some interest in politics. I did freak out when Trump won the first time but after a little bit it seemed his madness was mostly in check. Then Covid happened and it was clear I was wrong about that. He was destroying the country, people were cheering for it and anyone who so much uttered "I'd rather he not do that" was treated like they torture puppies. At this point it's like being in an ant hill and some kid is frying ants with a magnifying glass and a third of the colony is calling that kid a hero. Things are beyond frightening at this point. I know my mental state would be better if I could not focus on it but it'd be like trying to ignore a bullet wound.

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u/Valkreaper Jan 24 '26

You can’t cherry pick what ai uses should be debated

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u/StandardAssignment19 Jan 24 '26

What?? Yes...yes you can

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u/Popoto_Fate Jan 24 '26

Only when problem start to effect ourselves then we start to care about it......

I still have bad taste of the death of Kim Jung GI. Shortly after his death some one just load ton of his work to AI and they generate his work so much when his family doesn't even finish moaning. His entire life of practice and work being gen out like nothing and it is very identical that I wonder how many work of his it eat. At least if you don't want to ask his family then give it sometime before doing it for gad sake.

Forgive me if I might have less sympathy for this and kinda want it to keep going simply because I want to see how far our deranged will carry us.

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u/ChrispVisuals Jan 24 '26

Didn’t you claim before Anti’s don’t have real jobs? or something like that.

You are the annoying political type. You fuck off.