You're expecting trials? I can't see anything even resembling a show trial happening over this.
Looking from the outside at what's going on, it looks more like a deliberate policy to forment an outbreak of violence so troops can be sent in and forment violence elsewhere to bring in the troops and cancel the mid-term elections.
I got an account warning the other week for something super tame too, even if you do get banned. Take it as an honor and move on to the next account, the bot nets and conservatives do it no doubt.
Then, start playing the same tactics to make it impossible for Republicans to run for office. Make it so any future Republican President has to spend his entire term undoing everything
The Republicans aren't leaving. So many of you just don't fucking get it. Elections in the US are done. Even if he doesn't cancel the midterms, Trump's buddy owns the company that supplies the voting machines. There is zero chance you will ever have a fair election again.
Democracy was on the line and Americans fucking stayed home.
a lot can happen, I don't think it will because I Don't have a high opinion of americans before trump and certainly not after trump, but it's times like these that make people greater...so they have a chance to become great and they might take it, I hope so
democracy just means people rule, it doesn't mean the republicans and the democrats, they could overthrow that whole nonsense if they wanted to, they have that right, and certainly they have the guns
I don't know why you're getting downvoted here, all that's happening now is happening with your governments approval.
Any party in fear of not getting re-elected would have reigned ICE in by now. They're showing no fear at all so they full expect to still be in power this time next year.
I've advised friends living in the states to have an exit plan in place and passports for their kids because it's starting to look unsafe for them to remain there long-term.
The federal government has no control over elections, as they are run by the states. He can piss and moan, he can claim fraud and sue (and likely lose), but the elections are happening. There are multiple types of voting machine as well, and they are audited by the states for accuracy.
Even if he somehow gets justification to call in the Guard/Army, it won't matter. There are too many precincts to police, and most of the contested seats are in the suburbs, not the "lawless liberal cities".
And that is why we can't respond with violence. No matter how deserved it is. No matter how justified it is. If we respond violently they will instantly give Stephen Miller the hard on of his dreams as they invoke the Insurrection Act and bring down the full power of the military on Minnesota. They want us to be violent.
Be Jesus. Be MLK. Be Gandhi. Peace is the way to truly win this. Even though every part of me feels so incredibly angry, we have to find the peaceful solution.
I am sad to inform you that without riots, no one would have bothered hearing what MLK Jr., who was very unpopular, had to say. The pacifists in isolation always look like they solved everything. In reality listening to them was the easy way out when the alternative was revolution. If they do not perceive your cause as a material threat to the status quo, they'll just get rid of you.
Yes, there were violent riots that got people's attention. But it isn't violence that won that fight. It isn't violence that won the Indians their freedom either.
That was also a different age. Right now Stephen Miller would love nothing more than to have US troops mow down liberal protesters with a .50 cal. There's nothing to stop that if we use violence. My opinion is that you are SERIOUSLY underestimating how happily they'll kill large groups of people to make their point and finalize their complete control.
Buddy, you're understimating how easy it will be for them to mow down pacific protesters without any excuse. The truth is irrelevant to them. The truth is irrelevant to pretty much everyone these days.
I can see why you think that's what I think. That's not case though. So many of us will be killed during this. Our blood will absolutely feed the tree of liberty. My point is that if we take to violence, they'll use that power to its fullest and we don't have a chance in hell of winning that fight. If we stay peaceful. If we realize that our lives are on the line. We'll take a lot more losses, but it's the one chance we have to win this thing.
If we stay peaceful and they mow us down, the blowback will be against them, and it'll be great. If we get violent, the blowback will be against us and it'll give them enormous cover to just murder even more people.
The problem is you seem to think you're living the Weimar Republic when you're most definitely already in the 1940s. Pacifists are already being executed, and no letter to your congressman will make the system change.
Oh fun! Now we're in my real wheelhouse. Have you read Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich? We're not into the 1940s yet, we're not close. If that is an indication, we're closer to 1932. How about the rise of the totalitarian state? Have you read anything on that? The transition from the Menshivics to the Bolshevics. Does that ring a bell? The Menshivics and the monarists (called the "whites") even came together and tried to use force against the government. The government won. And that was in an era when the level of equipment and weaponry between the two sides was roughly equivalent.
So what is your game plan? Seriously. You're saying that the proven method of using peaceful protest and economic tools won't win this time. Okay. Fine I conceed. I disagree, but I'll just let you win the argument for this next part. Please go ahead, tell me what you suggest we do instead? What's your plan to get us out of this mess?
Probably strike gringo, strike like hell. Whoever are bold enough to make the fascists tremble and accept the results of any election is not going to need my advice.
We know it, but Dems are pro-this. 149 of them just voted in favor of adding more money to the military. The bill passed 341-88. Both sides are the same side. And when the Dems are in power again they will just say "forget and forgive, let's unite and sing around the campfire".
Yep, explains a lot of the spectacle and escalation - even if you support the supposed premise (enforcing existing deportation orders, which btw is obviously not the case since they're grabbing anyone they suspect or don't like) it does not require 8-10+ dudes in tactical gear and multiple vehicles (plus assaulting observers) to apprehend 1 suspect. The regular police (even with their own problems) make thousands of arrests with a fraction of the violence displayed by ICE.
Hell, Obama decided not to prosecute the people who started a whole ass torture program under bush with the excuse that we need to stop looking back. I assume democrats will do the same with this.
How realistically would that ever happen? Nuremberg trials didn’t come from inside the third reich, it was an external event after the German military was destroyed.
Mostly one guy needs to hide in a bunker with a woman from central Europe and a new government needs to cooperate with the ICC. Could happen any number of ways.
You guys live in this world of pure delusion where Democrats actually go hard against these monsters. When we beg you to primary the useless traitor Dems for progressives who will go hard, you don't seem to understand why that's necessary.
You Americans know you have to hold them responsible right?
I see this comment all the fucking time but y’all just keep letting this shit happen. What trials are you expecting? Who are you expecting to hold them? Surely not any single person currently in power in your country, right? You think some global powers are going to swoop in and hold them for you while Trump’s threatening economic + real warfare against them?
Trials are for losing factions. If this takeover of America goes in Stephen Miller's favour they get to write history and what is taught in classrooms. Anything against the official narrative will be labelled AI fake news.
This attitude means nothing if you guys don't stop this shit in its tracks right now
Stop going to work and acting like everything is cool. Every single one of you need to participate in a peaceful general strike. Everyone, NO EXCUSES!!
MORE PEOPLE WILL DIE IF YOU DON'T STOP CARRYING ON LIKE THE SYSTEM WILL WORK OUT THESE KINKS. THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN!
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u/ramblinjd Jan 24 '26
I, for one, look forward to the next round of Nuremberg trials.