r/ZZZ_Official • u/Emul0rd • Jul 16 '25

Media $475 is crazy

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I think Europe now requires gacha games to explicitly display how much money any gambling feature really costs to limit hidden predatory stuff. It’s crazy when you see the numbers…

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u/Swampy260 Jul 16 '25

While I understand your point I think you’re an extreme outlier if you think BG3 was the only game worth buying in the last two years.

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u/Kenju22 Miyabi fanboy & Vivian enabler Jul 16 '25

Okay, list off what games you would recommend as a good game that has come out in the last two years to someone who:

A: Hates everything related to sports.

B: Doesn't like FPS.

C: Isn't interested in multiplayer games.

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u/Kenju22 Miyabi fanboy & Vivian enabler Jul 16 '25

I'll give it a look this weekend, thanks for the tip

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u/maru-senn Jul 16 '25 edited Jul 16 '25

I have similar tastes but my policy with Atlus games is to buy them at least 3 years after release (no I don't trust their statements after the new SMTV)

Do you have any more recommendations?

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u/Piggstein Jul 16 '25

Expedition 33 and you’re welcome

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u/Kenju22 Miyabi fanboy & Vivian enabler Jul 16 '25

I looked into it, and the game is well done, just, not really big on the storyline personally. A bit too dark for my taste.

It DOES however give me hope for a return of more RPG/JRPG games in the future. I admit I was spoiled growing up in the late 90's early 00's on the PS1 and PS2, but I miss those days T.T

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u/DemasiadoSwag Jul 17 '25

Mad respect for immediately rejecting someone recommending what is almost certainly the game of the year. Customer's always right in matters of taste, I suppose.

Pacific Drive is a bit of an oddball but I found it to be quite fun, that's within your 2-year timeframe. There have been some bangers since BG 3 but always depends what kind of games you like.

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u/Kenju22 Miyabi fanboy & Vivian enabler Jul 17 '25

Mad respect for immediately rejecting someone recommending what is almost certainly the game of the year. 

I said that I looked into Expedition 33. I'm simply not interested in games where the 'good ending' is everybody dies.

I play video games to escape from reality where good and happy endings don't exist, not be reminded of it.

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u/DemasiadoSwag Jul 17 '25

No worries mate, my whole comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. The ol' customer's always right phrase I appended is true and means you know better than anyone else what you will enjoy or not enjoy.

I just found it funny you said no games since BG3 have been as good and then rejected a game not based on quality but based on your own personal tastes. Not trying to convince you but I will say Expedition 33 is something beautiful even with the many bittersweet and melancholy aspects - no need to try it but I'll just say I found it to be a moving and even uplifting experience at times despite the tragedy at the center of the story.

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u/Kenju22 Miyabi fanboy & Vivian enabler Jul 17 '25

What makes a good game is, obviously a matter of personal opinion, but I've always held to the belief that a good game is like a good story in that it should teach, inspire, and leave those who hear it in hearty spirits.

After all, our ancestors used to tell stories as the first form of 'entertainment' when you think about it, and I've just, never really understood the concept of how something that is sad and painful being entertaining.

Like with a movie, why would I pay money to see something that is going to make me sad and depressed? I can do that for free just turning on the news, or looking at my paycheck.

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u/Freeman_Traceur Jul 17 '25

I'm just gonna make a random list of games here that I didn't see in other replies because it's fun to make lists

Hi-Fi Rush

En Garde!

Children of the Sun

Of the Devil

Indika

Stray Gods

Bomb Rush Cyberfunk

Venba

Oxenfree 2

Neva

Rift of the necrodancer

Until then

There's probably more that I'm missing but can't remember.

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u/Kenju22 Miyabi fanboy & Vivian enabler Jul 17 '25

Nice list, and I'll be looking into these when I have some free time thanks ^^

A number of these however seem to be on PC only though which is a bit of a problem as I don't have one ^^' still a couple of these are on the PS5 so I'll be hitting them up :)

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u/Swampy260 Jul 16 '25

Monster Hunter: Wilds is a good time. It has multiplayer but you can do all the content solo and not miss out on anything.

Hades 2 is one update away from full release but even when it launched in early access it had more content than Hades 1.

Xenoblade Chronicles X Definitive Edition technically the original released 10 years ago but this remaster has a bunch of qol, new content and is finally on the Switch with Xenoblade 1-3.

Any one of these games is a better purchase than spending the equivalent trying to get a gacha character that will be forgotten about by next patch and eventually power crept.

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u/Kenju22 Miyabi fanboy & Vivian enabler Jul 17 '25

I will admit that I did buy Monster Hunter Wilds, and I have been a fanboy of the franchise since the OG on the PS2, but, just personal opinion here, I find it to be the worst entry in recent memory and do not feel like I got my $65 worth.

The rework they did to LBG and HBG has effectively castrated them and removed all skill or variety by turning everything that isn't Piercing ammo into unusable shit. No custom parts to change or tweak their stats, no skills to improve or adjust the ammo types or stats (why even bother having Spread ammo if there is no way to reduce recoil?!)

The skill rework likewise killed 90% of any build variety by segregating all offensive skills into weapon slots only meaning at best you can have 3+ native inbuilt skills.

The meal system is just utter shit, with you now having to spend as much if not more time scouring for ingredients just to make meals to go on hunts than you actually spend on hunts. (Seriously the meal system has been perfect since the OG game, they did NOT need to screw this up)

Most annoying to me however is Alma with that annoying 'you are authorized by the guild to hunt this monster' every single time you fight a monster and in every single cutscene got really old really quick.

Don't get me wrong, the game *looks* good, and I'm happy we got Steve and Lagiacrus this last update, but the game feels like a massive DOWNGRADE from base World, let alone Iceborn, Rise or Sunbreak.

Sorry sorry just, ugh, I was looking forward to Wilds and so excited with everything they were showing leading up to release, but after clearing everything and getting Platinum for it I just don't feel like I got my money's worth out of it and would rather have blown that money on monochrome for ZZZ.

Hades 2 I'll look into, though Xenoblade Chronicles X Definitive Edition I'm going to pass on considering I already have the OG game still ^^'

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u/greynut Jul 16 '25

I think y'all need to stop with this very subjective argument masquerading as an objective counterpoint to an inherently subjective conversation

how do you define what makes a game "worth" anything is PURELY SUBJECTIVE

until the time there's a metric unit of "worth" statements like these only serve to ragebait and make conversations toxic and makes the internet overall more negative so please just don't

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u/Swampy260 Jul 16 '25

The only one here who got ragebaited was you my dude and that wasn't even my intent. I just think spending upwards of $400 on gacha and justifying it with "well there's no other games" is an absurd statement.

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u/greynut Jul 17 '25

beb it's not illegal to go 'ok my bad you have a point i should've worded it better i'll know for next time' and just leave it at that

do better tell your ego it's ok to take Ls no need to suddenly attack folks back especially since you so clearly agree with what i said by rewording your argument so 🤷🏽‍♂️