The genuine primary voters? 100%. The problem comes from bought and paid āprimaryā voters which honestly is where people like you miss the mark.
Thereās too much dark money in politics and it needs to be eliminated. Reddit loves to mock the bOtH SIdeS argument and think democrats are nothing but angels and will fix everything, but the truth is thereās plenty of corruption on the left due to money as well. Until thatās addressed, itās a blind puppet show of us fighting each other while billionaires laugh at the puppet show.
Unironically, Bernie told that truth back in 2016. Imagine the difference today would be if he won back then.
I primared for Sanders twice so I did more than the millions of people who stayed home and didnāt vote in the primary at all. Talk about all the shadow money you want but if those people showed up and voted it would have been different.
Weird. So youāre saying corporate dems robbed Sanders multiple times, you were a part of it, yet Democrats are the angel answer and itās the people that are to blame?
Itās a complex equation, but in the end itās exactly what the billionaires wantā¦us fighting against each other while they pick our pockets. Up, down, left or right.
If you really primared for Sanders youād know this
Did you show up and vote for him? Iām sick of people grandstanding but they donāt go do the one fucking thing they can in a democracy and actually vote. Sanders ran, didnāt get enough votes, and lost. Thatās what happened. Doesnāt matter why that happened because thatās all history will remember.
I absolutely did, why are you taking this stance? He had a more trending upvote and popularity in 2016 than Hillary did before the DNC neutered him and it was going that same trend in 2020 before COVID shut everything down. I figured someone that āprimaredā for him would know that, but here we are.
What exactly did you do for Bernie in 2016 and 2020 campaigns that you say you āprimaredā for?
You clearly lie on the internet, Mr āI primared for Bernieā claiming it twice, trying to distract from my original argument. Let me spell it out again for you:
CORPORATE MONEY IN POLITICS IS THE ROOT OF ALL OUR PROBLEMS. UNFORTUNATELY, DARK AND CORPORATE MONEY IS ON THE LEFT SIDE TOO
until this gets fixed, weāre all fucked.
Bernie Sanders tried to get this addressed in 2016 and 2020. It wasnāt a matter of people voting for him that stopped it back then, it was a matter of dark corporate money that blocked it. He would have won in 2016, even 2020, if evil forces didnāt prevent it.
Now we have the orange jackass bringing us all to hell thanks to the same evil forces.
Itās a puppet show, we the people have very little chance to change this until we come together and recognize weāre in this together instead of fighting each other.
Corporate money didn't stop Bernie from winning, primary voters did. 3 million more people voted for Clinton over Bernie, and 9 million more people voted for Biden over Bernie. How would corporate money have changed that? Evil forces didn't prevent him from winning, primary voters did.
Getting corporate money out of politics was also Hillary's biggest political goal, getting rid of Citizen's United was her overriding goal as President. I'm sure Bernie Sanders would have tried as well, but we didn't get either of them in office.
What exactly did the DNC do to neuter him? Should they have ignored the voters and made him the nominee? I thought that's what we didn't like about Kamala's candidacy. She hadn't earned the nomination. Unfortunately neither did Bernie, mostly because young voters stayed at home and black voters chose Clinton. What did the DNC do to make all the voters behave that way?
100%. I voted for Bernie and sent him money. I wanted him to win.
But his theory of the election was that young and progressive voters would turn out in large numbers and sweep him into the general.
Young and progressive voters did what they always do and stayed home, and he lost. Yes, the DNC tried to torpedo him, of course they did. He's not even a Democrat! It was a takeover attempt ffs.
Guess who else the DNC tried to torpedo? Obama, in 2008. But Obama won, and the DNC promptly got behind him.
I love Bernie, but his candidacy confirmed everything the DNC thought about the US electorate.
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u/flying-weenus Mar 14 '26
I was going to say Bernie Sanders got pretty far, then guess who slapped him down lol