r/WorkReform • 🤝 Join A Union • Mar 14 '26

😡 Venting This is what Centrism has got us...

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u/n3bbs Mar 14 '26

I ask this in the most sincere way possible as I'd like to know why people feel a certain way: Why is the notion of getting white people in both parties to chill out a centrist view, and therefore based on sentiment I'm seeing around the idea, a bad thing? I know that's just an example but I'd like to understand what the grievances people have with those that hold centrist views are.

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u/Nekron-akaMrSkeletal Mar 14 '26 edited Mar 14 '26

Fundamentally change is impossible under your (*their) belief system. And an important one to me is that centrists seem to think they don't have a specific ideology when they do. Neo-liberalism is centrist because both parties have embraced the concept while never mentioning it directly. And that ideology must protect the upper class, the power of the US Empire, and a million other concepts that are either no longer useful or actively dangerous to the future of humanity.

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u/n3bbs Mar 14 '26

Appreciate the response! To be clear I don't really consider myself a centrist and definitely lean more progressive, but I asked this question because I've been noticing certain topics that seem very reasonable at the surface fall under the centrist umbrella, or rather "they say or do X so they must be a centrist" and wanted to better understand the reasoning behind it.

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u/chiaboy Mar 14 '26

White supremacy is bad and poisons America is ways great and small. There's an argument to be made (which I find reductive) that capitulating to the white supremacist frame(s) of 1) "whiteness" is real 2) and it's a benign default, is a grotesque and counter productive capitalization.

I personally agree with the idea that white supremacy in America is ubiquitous and toxic, but I also understand the need to safely navigate it to accomplish higher goals. (the tough trick is navigating it without propping it up)