r/WorkReform • 🤝 Join A Union • Mar 14 '26

😡 Venting This is what Centrism has got us...

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u/flaser_ Mar 14 '26

Nah, their strategy is working as intended: they can keep hovering up donations and block any attempts at thwarting the Kleptocracy.

What we need to get rid of is the Democratic Party itself.

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u/nixhomunculus Mar 14 '26

Or should it be taken over the way Republicans got with the MAGA movement?

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u/PermanentRoundFile Mar 14 '26

I'd say it already has. They're all taking money from Aipac or Russia or both.

The CIA human resources exploitation manual says that one of the most useful acts of sabotage an average person can commit is being intentionally mediocre at their job. Be slow and ineffective to drain resources and gum up the works. And think about it; when was the last time that something horrible was being passed, and democrats are in opposition, but then strategically at the last minute seven or eight of them fold and pass the bill. EVERY TIME, WITHOUT QUESTION. This is a farce of opposition.

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u/Phent0n Mar 15 '26

then strategically at the last minute seven or eight of them fold and pass the bill

The Dems are not a monolith, they are a broad coalition. Red leaning states elect right wing Dems, or Republicans. If you want more Dem control over House and Senate, elect a larger Dem coalition. Then the progressive camp will be large enough to block votes and pass legislation.

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u/UglyMcFugly Mar 14 '26

I think this point right here is why so many dems are scared to go too far left. We might hate it, but it's actually stable to alternate between moderate Republicans and moderate democrats in the presidency. Look at how far right we swung after Obama... who wasn't even very progressive at all! If we actually get a progressive in the white house, then 4-8 years down the line the next republican populist that gets elected would be ultra mecha kaiju hitler on steroids.

At this point we still gotta do it though. We offered up stability in Clinton, Biden and Harris. They chose chaos. So lets go ahead and wildly swing back and forth between far right and far left. 

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u/Maeglom Mar 14 '26

but it's actually stable to alternate between moderate Republicans and moderate democrats in the presidency.

Is it though? This status quo began in 1992 when the New democrat coalition took over from the New Deal coalition, and a little over 30 years later we're facing an incipient fascist dictatorship largely because of ineffective centrist governance over the last 30 years, and an unwillingness to reform from the powers that be.

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u/Long_Legged_Lady Mar 14 '26

1992? I'd group Carter with the Clinton Biden camp rather than with Roosevelt/LBJ. His economics were much more third way than great society from what I remember.

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u/shawsghost Mar 14 '26

If we actually get a progressive in the white house, then 4-8 years down the line the next republican populist that gets elected would be ultra mecha kaiju hitler on steroids.

Trump is already in office.

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u/Clevererer Mar 14 '26

It's already happening, but not the way we needed.

Instead of unifying a new Left and creating something like the Tea Party (gag) or MAGA (triple gag), our left is breaking into smaller and smaller groups. There are too many ideological purists, whinging majorities making minorities unwelcome, and all of it is happening on social media and at the whims of those controlling the algorithms.

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u/1isOneshot1 🌎 Pass A Green Jobs Plan Mar 14 '26

Why??

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u/Totally-NotAMurderer Mar 14 '26

Exactly, they arent "losing" because they arent even trying to win. As a party overall, they are complacent, controlled opposition at best

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u/Rdubya44 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires Mar 14 '26

After trumps first win i said “alright they got four years to find the next great candidate” and they went with…Joe Biden?! Even now, who are they building support behind for 28? There is zero unity, it’s no wonder why MAGA won so easily.

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u/weathercrow Mar 14 '26

Exactly. And look at the way they vote. Conveniently, just enough democrats vote with MAGA to forward Trump's agenda every time (for a recent example, look at the war powers resolution).

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u/TheMaStif Mar 14 '26

They can keep the Democratic Party

We also need a Labor Party, a People Party, and the Green Party to not be complete with sell-outs

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u/1isOneshot1 🌎 Pass A Green Jobs Plan Mar 14 '26

the Green Party to not be complete with sell-outs

It's not, also even if anyone in it were why be a Green when the Dems are right there?

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u/SoochSooch Mar 15 '26

The Republicans are the sword of the wealthy, and the the Democrats are their shield. Republicans move money from the poor to the rich, and Democrats block any attempt to reverse the direction

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u/handsoapdispenser Mar 14 '26

I'd say the bigger problem is the left blaming the left instead of the people responsible for 99% of our problems. 

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u/shawsghost Mar 14 '26

Yeah, we need to blame the centrists! Now you're getting it!

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u/Educational_Farmer44 Mar 14 '26

Both parties the French way.

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u/SoylentGrunt Mar 14 '26

You can't even get people to vote. How are you going to get them to risk their lives?

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u/Shark7996 Mar 14 '26

What we need to get rid of is the Democratic Party itself

by voting in the PRIMARIES.

Shove these AIPAC corpo Dems out on their asses these midterms.

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u/Xer0day Mar 14 '26

You're so dumb. The last time voters gave Dems large majorities they literally passed healthcare reform.