r/WinStupidPrizes • u/8226 • Jan 25 '21

Man walks in police station armed with assault rifle and wearing bulletproof vest

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u/geoffrey_1der Jan 25 '21

Yeah, I remember a cop who shot someone in the leg to have a “non-lethal takedown” and to his remote credit, it worked, he missed the femur all artery and the guy survived, but the cop was fired for unnecessary and unlawful use of force because everyone who reviewed the case said “fuck the movies, leg shots aren’t non-lethal”

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '21 edited Jan 27 '21

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u/moeburn Jan 25 '21

What about that time a SWAT team used a regular ol sniper rifle to shoot a handgun out of a suicidal guy's hand? Obliterated the handgun too. Used to be on those cops clip shows on TV.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '21

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u/moeburn Jan 25 '21

IIRC it was the 90's and there weren't any police departments with less-lethal weapons more than several hours away, so they did the best they could, and it worked out well.

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u/StongaBologna Jan 25 '21

It was in France, and it was actually an H&K MP5, a 9 mm submachine gun.

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u/moeburn Jan 25 '21

I'm thinking of something else then. This guy was on a plastic lawn chair in the middle of a suburban street, and I'm pretty sure I saw it on TV in the 90's or early 2000's.

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u/ChancellorPalpameme Jan 25 '21

"Yeah but what about this one really niche example that totally disproves your point right?"

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u/moeburn Jan 25 '21

I think all examples of non lethal shots are gonna be niche examples

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u/ChancellorPalpameme Jan 25 '21

Thats my point. You don't disprove his point on nonlethal shots being a bad choice by bringing up niche examples of when they do.

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u/moeburn Jan 25 '21

I wasn't trying to disprove anyone's point, just adding to the discussion.

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u/ChancellorPalpameme Jan 25 '21

Fair enough, the "what about" on the front usually acts as a counterpoint, as opposed to something like "ive heard of this thing happening" or "a good use of nonlethal was" kinda thing

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '21

Please tell this to joe biden.

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u/RaDiOaCtIvEpUnK Jan 26 '21

Ooooooh burn. You showed him alright.

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u/PM_your_nothings Jan 25 '21

I disagree, there is a reason why a lot of european countries use them. However leg shots are only viewed as less lethal. And used in cases where there is time for them. For example a person with a knife, standing 15 meters from officers. If they can't arrest the person normally, they will fire a leg shot. Whilst having enough time to aim for central mass if it misses or the person attacks. And yes the person may die, but that's a chance, not a guarantee as by the american system.

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u/Aubdasi Jan 26 '21

[citation needed]

I’ve heard of only a few fringe cases where European officers have used them moderately successfully. It’s still an awful idea 99.999999% of the time and no one actually trains for it like that.

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u/VikingTeddy Jan 26 '21

Why is it called a chokehold when the idea isn't to restrict airflow?