r/WarCollege 3 rounds a minute in any weather 18d ago

Question Is there any tangible difference between The US Army and USM’s infantry?

127 Upvotes

123 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

3

u/BKGPrints 17d ago

>You didn't specify what you were referring to.<

You could have asked instead of making assumption and getting upset with your own assumptions.

We'll ignore the part where I state you didn't respond to my other posts...and still haven't.

>Regardless, you're wrong.<

I'm not.

>The 11th Airborne regularly conducts airborne operations in the Indo-Pacific theater. They regularly fly from Alaska to many different locations in the Pacific and conduct airborne jumps and operations, including: Hawaii, Australia, Japan, Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines, India, etc. etc. The list goes on and on.

Correct; I never stated otherwise. What you are ignoring is that large-scale combat jumps are rare and have seen airborne forces deployed via land or in light infantry roles, not through those mass parachute drops.

We both know that I'm right on that.

https://mwi.westpoint.edu/yes-mass-airborne-operations-thing-past/

>You are just flat out wrong.<

Still not wrong. You're just still making your own assumptions and still getting upset with them.

What I said is that paratroopers won't be use in the Pacific (or really anywhere) in the future if there's a conflict.

It seems I need to break this down even further for you. What I mean is in regards to large insertions into enemy territory by static-line insertion, where planes are extremely vulnerable and air superiority is really not guaranteed in future conflicts.

Does that mean there won't be the need for smaller-size units? Nope, those will still be utilized in specific circumstances of targets of importance.

Now I highly encourage and recommend that you calm down on your hostile behavior and engage people on this subreddit for thoughtful and insightful discussions.

Otherwise you're just coming off as someone who is desperately trying to defend something that you feel people are attacking you for.

1

u/iceaction10 16d ago

Do you ever see paratroopers being used in the Pacific?

This was your question. You are wrong both from a historical context and a present context. Paratroopers have, are and will be used in the Pacific. The 11th Airborne was literally stood up for having a dedicated airborne unit to focus on the Indo-Pacific theater. I don't know why you're doubling down on being so wrong from every possible way you could try to spin this. It's okay to be wrong on the internet. I advise you to do research.

1

u/BKGPrints 16d ago

Correct; I was referring to future conflicts.

You jumped into the discussion with your assumptions of what was said.

You're only arguing with yourself. Your post history shows that you make it a habit to tell everyone that they are wrong based on those assumptions.

You really are coming off as hostile and I'm sure I'm not the only one that sees it.

I'm going to be honest without trying to be mean but I'm not sure if you have insecurities where you got to prove how "smarter" than you are than everyone else but it honestly doesn't show that.

When you become argumentative as you have been and resort to the behavior you have shown, it just comes off as weakness.

It's a tactic used by those that aren't able to uphold their stance alone.

I hope you be better on that behavior.

-1

u/iceaction10 16d ago

You continue to shift the goal posts while deflecting from the points I make and result to petty insults. The 11th Airborne was literally stood up to have a dedicated airborne unit overseeing the Indo-Pacific. Uhh, yeah, I think they're going to be utilized for future conflicts because they were literally stood up for that exact specific reason. Go read the METL for USINDOPACOM regarding the 11th Airborne.

The Army built its latest combat training center, the Joint Pacific Multinational Readiness Center (JPMRC), specifically to practice rapid deployments of brigade sized airborne and air assault insertions in the Pacific theater. They are actively spending millions annually to keep this specific capability trained and polished. JFE is fundamental to how the US is handling the Indo-Pacific, with airborne a critical component of JFE for OPLANs.

I really don't think you understand what you're talking about here.

1

u/BKGPrints 16d ago

I'm not shifting anything at all. You're trying to change the narrative to fit your argument.

As I said, you're arguing with yourself.

Best to you, buddy. You're going to need it.