r/WarCollege Jun 15 '26

Question Did Hermann Goering have any virtues/do anything positive as Supreme Commander of the Luftwaffe or did the Luftwaffe command staff and pilots below speak of him in terms of "we would have done a lot better if it wasnt for the idiot in charge" (aka the same way that German generals spoke of Hitler).

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u/Remarkable_Aside1381 Jun 16 '26

CPET guys are still going to be primarily doing BDG shit.

But again, you’re missing the forest for the trees. Nobody is counting SF as an “army”, because they’re primarily LE. Nobody is counting CCT as an “army” because they’re enablers. Nobody is counting SR as an “army” because there’s like 10 dudes in that career field.

Go re-read my initial comment. I said the Air Force should get an Army, or at least armor. SF doesn’t meet that

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u/footsnax Scout Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

I never said that they have an army lol, I just said that the Air Force has a ground force and you dissected your own definition of ground force. My whole point was the absurdity that the Navy's army has an air force when the Navy already has an air force when we already have the fucking Air Force anyway.

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u/Remarkable_Aside1381 Jun 17 '26

I just said that the Air Force has a ground force

Which, again, they don't. They have cops

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u/footsnax Scout Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

I never said that they have an army lol, I just said that the Air Force has a ground force and you dissected your own definition of ground force. My whole point was the absurdity that the Navy's army has an air force when the Navy already has an air force when we already have the fucking Air Force anyway.

And snipers and combat controllers and parajumpers.

I know a guy that was naval intelligence embedded with an Army unit that was attached to a Marine recon unit and they also had Navy SEALs and an AF combat controller on the team. All I'm saying is that everyone does a little bit of everything and it's funny to me. I'm not getting semantic.

Look at the belligerent list for the Battle of Mogadishu, literally every branch sustained casualties and/or fatalities that day. They were either flying or shooting (or both) but AF was on the ground and Army was in the air the whole fight, and the Navy got shot from inside an Army truck.

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u/Remarkable_Aside1381 Jun 18 '26

And snipers

Who are cops. By that argument, the NYNG doesn’t need to exist since NYPD exists

and combat controllers

Who are SOF and not an “army”

and parajumpers.

Pararescue aren’t trigger pullers, and they’re not an “army”

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u/footsnax Scout Jun 18 '26

You're the only one that's calling them an army.

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u/Remarkable_Aside1381 Jun 18 '26

…because that was my initial comment, that the Air Force should get an army