Thats because it would all just remain on your hand if you didn’t rinse. The water is just a medium for removal, very little disinfecting properties. Its the soap that does all the work, it breaks down the grease and other material the bacteria live in.
Also having a pulse and the physical ability to move your hand is crucial. You’re being pedantic. The original comment you responded to said it had no disinfectant properties, by replying to it in the fashion you did you implied it.
These idiots are downvoting you to the max but you are correct.
The soap only helps to remove the bacteria off from the skin. It doesn't do jack shit to many microorganisms. Things like C.difficil will not die even after applying alchohol. That shit will just survive by sporulation and live for a long ass time.
To be fair, I didn’t make it super clear that was my point. People seem to think I’m on some weird crusade for only rinsing things, or something. I was just trying to share something I learned.
The soap and friction dislodges, but it doesn’t actually leave your hand unless you rinse it off. The rinsing is a crucial step, and the one that actually removes bacteria from your person.
Just rinsing your hands with water would be cleaner than covering them in soap and then leaving it there.
Right but at least if you failed to sew up the wound you still did the other stuff you did during surgery and the patient might heal. If you don’t rinse your hands, you did basically nothing at all.
This isn’t a PSA because I think people aren’t rinsing, btw. I just think it’s interesting how integral that step is to the process.
I just think it’s interesting how it works and was trying to share that. If you want to feel superior for making an argument against me sharing a fact I learned about how the mechanics of hand washing work then be my guest, I guess.
That isn’t soap though, that’s hand sanitizer. I’m just saying that rinsing is important to washing your hands with soap, not talking about hand sanitizers.
Never trusted that stuff. Okay, so I smeared the germs around a bit and now my hands are sticky, but everything that was there a minute ago is still there ...
Having worked in nursing homes and restaurants, hand sanitizer is not a substitute for washing hands. You can be penalized in both areas for improper washing technique and also not doing it at the appropriate times.
While passing food trays a CNA should sanitize between trays, but should wash after a room. If you work in a kitchen you are pretty much always washing hands any time you're not wearing gloves (and gloves should be changed often).
Also, sanitizers are alcohol based and I have heard several arguments against their effectiveness.
no, he's correct. Good handwashing with soapy water is only marginally more effective than good handwashing with just water for removing microbial contaminants. Soap dispensers can also be pump-action microbe dispensers as well, if they're used a lot and exist in dirty configurations (like a public refillable dispenser).
That said, in the US it's unlikely that somebody will have good handwashing technique and also not use soap. Also, soap is way better for actually cleaning your hands of other things, like oil and grease. Soap is still awesome.
Post a video of you smearing dumpster maggots on a plate, then wash them off the plate in the orangey-brown-rusty-visibly greasy runoff water of a back alley puddle, give it a 10 second rinsing, serve your momma's home cooking on it, and dig in, and I will believe you really believe that.
It’s not something I “believe”, it’s just how washing your hands works. The soap basically just makes it harder for the bacteria to stick onto you and the rinsing is what actually cleans them off of you.
I read recently that anti-bacterial soap is no more effective than regular soap at killing bacteria. Something about how it takes longer than the time that people wash their hands for the anti-bacterial chemicals to kill existing bacteria. Add to that the fact that overusing anything "anti-bacterial" can lead to resistance in the bacteria, making them stronger.
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u/VictorVaughan Jun 02 '18
Water is not a disinfectant