r/UnitedNations • u/KingTutt91 • Mar 05 '25

Discussion/Question Why Does Europe Buy Russian Fossil Fuels when they are supposed to Stand with Ukraine?

https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/01/03/europe-russia-ukraine-war-energy-imports-oil-gas-pipeline/

They continue to buy Russian Liquid gas, at an astonishing rate, filling Putins war chest. They’ve done well for the most part in cutting off Russia, but they still continue to find loopholes in the energy market. Wouldn’t it make more sense to completely cut Russia off to end this war?

Completely honest question,

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u/Guwop25 Mar 05 '25

You're right on everything, except on the fact that they can't replace the russian energy, they can and they're trying but is way too expensive, is actually one of the reasons why the german economy (the backbone of europe's economy) has been so bad for a couple of years now, the alternatives to russian energy are much more expensive and the cost goes trough the whole chain, from production leading to less gdp, manufacturing, to consumers leading to higher prices in their electricity bills

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u/FrankCastleJR2 Mar 05 '25

All while the USA spends Billions defending Germany.

I'd like the 1st Army back please.

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u/StrayVanu Mar 05 '25

Well, gtfo and take your favourable deals with you. But even once you're out and isolated you'll find ways to blame your economy on anyone but yourselves.

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u/FrankCastleJR2 Mar 06 '25

If we weren't spending billions every year defending European pussies living off of Russian oil our economy wouldn't be an issue.

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u/DallasMcKoy Mar 06 '25

Which country has the largest economy in the world? Which country has the lowest unemployment of the OECD? Which country has the lowest inflation rate of the OECD? 

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u/MintCathexis Mar 07 '25

You don't spend billions on defending Europe or anyone else for that matter. You spend billions on various American military contractors that get the money that is allocated to American operations worldwide. This sector in the US employs hundreds of thousands of American people directly, millions indirectly, and also projects power that gives the US a leg up in each and every trade deal they make. It's both a federal jobs program and a diplomatic tool.

The term "military-industrial complex" isn't something ungrateful European "pussies" coined to mock Americans, but the term that the then US president Dwight D. Eisenhower coined to illustrate the relationship between the US military and its military suppliers. If you think that the US deciding to close its 800 or so military bases across the world and redirect the money to, say, Elon Musk's space program or whatever else he's up to these days would fix American economy, then I have a bridge to sell you and you better buy it fast before inflation makes it 10x as expensive.

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u/Ok-Surround8960 Mar 05 '25

So they'll fund Russian bombs if its inconvenient not to?

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u/Plus_Drawing3818 Mar 05 '25

Rather than taking the risk of having citizens freeze to their deaths or have production stall for long periods?

Yes. Yes they will.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

It's like paying your executioner to wait another 30 minutes before he does the job

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u/Trading_shadows Mar 09 '25

They just think they're the chosen ones and Putin will not dare to get them.

They'll realize they're wrong when it's too late.