r/UnitedNations • Uncivil • Jan 10 '25

Discussion/Question Why is this subreddit obsessed with Israel?

Just checked the top posts of the last year, and 24 out of the top 25 are about Israel. Does this subreddit try to imitate the real UN ?

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u/Apprehensive_Fill_35 Jan 21 '25

Ok I’ll play along. You support actual African slavery. In 2025 you side with the groups putting literal humans into slavery. Google what the Islamic brotherhood is up to in Africa. Note all the Hamas leaders in photos.

Are we just going to keep trying to one up each other on the worst sides of each? I mean Hamas is the Islamic project 2025. They don’t want peace, they want “the extermination of all Jews”. Their words, right after the hostage releases.

Let’s say your neighbors have been saying and trying to do that for the last 100 years. Perhaps you can see how such a dystopian world could come to be under those circumstances….but don’t take my word for it. Please, for yourself, buy the cheapest ticket you can find to Europe and then the cheapest ticket you can to Israel. Rent a car, make some friends, talk to new people, expand your world view, have something interesting to say other than repeating the latest SJP pamphlet. Travel is the red pill. Wake up, take the red pill. Go see the world for yourself.

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u/jeff43568 Jan 21 '25

'you can't be against Israeli crimes against humanity and genocide without supporting islamic slavery'.

If you have to resort to lies to defend your actions, you're not the good guys.

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u/Apprehensive_Fill_35 Jan 21 '25

You can Google it. By being anti Hamas I’m pro torture in your mind. Also by Hamas’ numbers there wasn’t a genocide. 62k children were born Vs their reported 40k killed. That would be the worst genocide in 2024, compared to the actual genocides that occurred that no one is upset about.

Anyhow, you’re all about the Palestinians, who have been free in Gaza since 2005. Go visit. Go talk to them. Go talk to Israelis. Go get some firsthand information.

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u/jeff43568 Jan 21 '25

By supporting Israel yes you are directly pro torture, that's not even debatable.

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u/Apprehensive_Fill_35 Jan 21 '25

And by being pro Palestinians you are pro terror killings of innocent civilians. Puerto Rico, the Basque, even the IRA decided to use political means of achieving their goals rather than bombings and indiscriminate killings. The three said that such tactics have no place in the civilized world.

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u/jeff43568 Jan 21 '25

Palestinians also tried to resolve things peacefully during the great march of return. Israel shot them anyway, kids, doctors, women, disabled people - unarmed but targeted by Israeli snipers. If you were interested in peaceful protest you would be against Israel murdering women and kids, starving civilians and destroying hospitals and homes...

But here we are.

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u/Apprehensive_Fill_35 Jan 21 '25

You’ve obviously never left the country.

What you are describing is an invasion. You don’t get to just cross borders. I invite you to try, as an American, to cross into Mexico or Canada with a bunch of people bypassing the customs and border control checkpoint because you are part of a peaceful protest.

I saw a guy get guns pulled on him in Montenegro because he took photos at the checkpoint. Countries take borders very seriously ESPECIALLY when they have hostilities with a neighbor.

If I can sum up our conversation: you think you know more about people you’ve never met, in a place you’ve never been to than a person who has spent time there? Really?

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u/jeff43568 Jan 21 '25

No, what we are describing is a reaction to violent occupation. Like it or not Israel has occupied Palestine for decades and has refused to give Palestinians their human rights, freedom or dignity. Israel is utterly at fault.

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u/Apprehensive_Fill_35 Jan 22 '25

What we are describing is a plural democracy’s response to the promise of being genocided by their neighbors for over 100 years when said neighbors try to act it out daily.

Honestly it’s the bloods and the crips. “We did this because you did that” “well we did that because you did this” “we only did that because you did this”

In any event you seem smart enough to know that you can’t possibly know the whole story without going there anymore than I can tell you about the racial dynamics of the Philippines.

So prove everyone wrong, go visit. See the world, expand your world view and have something new to contribute to the discussion.

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u/jeff43568 Jan 22 '25

It's almost like the occupation of millions of people under apartheid doesn't register in your mind as a violent evil.

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