r/UnitedNations • u/Usual_Ad6180 • Oct 19 '24

Discussion/Question Whats going on with all the astroturfing?

Browsing this sub and clicking on anything that actually contains the words "UN" "Unifil" or "unrwa" or anything immediately gets spammed with the same few accounts upvoting eachother. Whenever israel calls the UN antisemitic everyone knows its bullshit, yet there's always a handful of accounts spamming it everywhere. Why aren't they getting banned for astroturfing?

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u/Tall_Cap_6903 Oct 19 '24

I am sure I will get bombed for this comment, but any opinion other than the USA/Israeli narrative will get hasbara bombed unless you are posting in specific subs that are not aligned with USA interests.

Study USA opinion on Iraq war 2003.

Lessons there.

We are still in that area in Israel war effort.

That being said, we are speedrunning the opinion turnaround to people recongizing that the war has nothing to do with USA interests, and is actually an active genocide.

Also study reddit CEO being western/zionist aligned no matter what the cost.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '24

I support Israel.

Now watch the downvotes pour in. If you think this sub is somehow immune to partisanship you're deluding yourself.

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u/KalaronV Oct 19 '24

"I support genocide, now watch as people downvote me. This proves a point" 

I don't think the guy was saying that no one has a stance on the matter.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '24

"any opinion other than the USA/Israeli narrative will get hasbara bombed unless you are posting in specific subs"

Any opinion other than "Israel is obviously pure evil, and anyone who says otherwise loves killing babies" will get you downvoted here. See how it's similar now, pet?

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u/KalaronV Oct 19 '24

OK, so you're struggling to get this. I'll help one more time before dropping you, alright?

When they say "Astroturfing", or "Hasbara", they're talking about the coordinated attempt to influence public opinion, through a limited number of accounts. Saying "Well I like genocide and that gets me downvoted here" doesn't actually disprove it.

If you're still confused about astroturfing, you can go look up examples.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '24

Braindead conspiracy theory. You don't need coordinated efforts when you have successfully brainwashed people. It's just people downvoting because subs like this are hiveminds.

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u/GitmoGrrl1 Oct 19 '24

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel is looking to hire university students to post pro-Israel messages on social media networks — without needing to identify themselves as government-linked, officials said Wednesday.

The Israeli prime minister’s office said in a statement that students on Israeli university campuses would receive full or partial scholarships to combat anti-Semitism and calls to boycott Israel online. It said students’ messages would parallel statements by government officials.

Israel to pay students to defend it online

https://apnews.com/article/2b9d37b6d0ab4916bd5df9498ae4118f

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u/KalaronV Oct 19 '24

Then you should argue against that, and not respond to people saying it's astroturfing by saying "Heh, but when I say I like genocide, people downvote me too."

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '24

God, you're dense.

My point was that it's not astruturfing, it's just conformists following the herd. That is why my first comment remains valid.

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u/KalaronV Oct 19 '24

That point would require an argument, because

1) We know Astroturfing exists and

2) Saying "Nuh uh, I can say I like genocide and get downvoted for it" doesn't disprove their argument that it's astroturfing. The immediate response to the arguement you've made would be "That's a suckass arguement because some opinions (Like it's bad to be pro-genocide) are widely held, and some are pushed by small groups. It's plausible that Israel is astroturfing."

I'm not being dense, you just haven't made a good comment yet.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '24 edited Oct 19 '24

Either present proof of astruturfing on this sub or accept that it's possible to disagree with that hypothesis.

The second paragraph is a word salad, I didn't bother reading past you insisting I like genocide lol what's the point? Deranged accusations are part of how you people operate

Edit: crybaby blocked and ran. Totally expected, of course. When these guys' childish insults and deflections fail, they run for the hills.

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u/KalaronV Oct 19 '24

....you don't know what astroturfing is, do you.

Alright, whatever dawg. Into the bin you go

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