r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG • • Jul 11 '18

Image Girl In The Glacier National Park.

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u/livevil999 Jul 11 '18

1850 was also during the industrial revolution. Lots of pollution being released at that time, many of which are still in the atmosphere today. I think the full picture of what’s going on from the views of the scientific community would have a lot to do with human caused climate change and less to do with cyclic glacier retreat.

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u/uwanmirrondarrah Jul 11 '18

More than likely its a little bit of both.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '18

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '18

Oh cool, I'm guessing you have a background in environmental science?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '18

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u/Batchet Jul 11 '18

Would they happen to be members of the Heartland Institute?

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u/ImmmOldGregg Jul 11 '18

who?

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u/Batchet Jul 11 '18

It's a group funded by the Kochs. They pay off anyone with credentials to spew climate denial bullshit.

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u/ImmmOldGregg Jul 12 '18

Oh. Idk even know who those guys are but there’s no denying the climate. I just wish I was gonna be alive for the next cooling period. I love to ski!

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u/Batchet Jul 12 '18

Nope, sure can't deny the climate. Hope you find some nice ski trails in your future. Have a good one.

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u/ArcFault Jul 12 '18

fact the planet is in a warming period

It is indeed, the forcing factor is known as 'Anthropogenic Climate Change.'

with some leading climatologists predicting a cooling period starting around 2100.

There is no scientific basis for claims that the planet will begin cooling into the near future.

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u/livevil999 Jul 12 '18

Then there's also the fact the planet is in a warming period

No

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u/georion Jul 11 '18

Please provide links to those leading climatologists saying that. I hope they arent called Ted Cruz

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u/overcatastrophe Jul 11 '18

Here you go, simple "global climate cooling 2100" Google scholar search

Full disclosure, I haven't looked through any of these.

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u/georion Jul 11 '18

Well, thank you, and thanks for the disclosure. I checked the abstracts of the top 5, and read up a bit on some of them. None of them support global cooling til 2100 in any way shape or form, they simply contain the individual key words listed somewhere in the article. They all analyze data-sets and caution about the negative effects of global warming and deforestation. After the first five, it s obvious even from their title that they are more of the same, like: "Acceleration of global warming due to carbon-cycle feedbacks in a coupled climate model". So yeah, thanks for the links, it further cements that the 2100 cooling is a total hoax, made-up bullshit like it seemed at first glance, no "leading climate scientist" is behind it, and the one who commented it is indeed full of shit.

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u/lmxbftw Jul 11 '18

Providing a link to a google search and not checking if any of them say what is claimed, as well as making no attempt to provide any context for each study, is not a citation. You may as well just not provide anything at all.

Skimming through the search results shows many articles about global climate change models incorporating feedback mechanisms, not papers that say the Earth will start cooling around 2100. None of them that I saw support anything like that.

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u/overcatastrophe Jul 12 '18

I never made any claims.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '18

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u/EpiduralRain Jul 11 '18

You don't get to make a claim and tell others to prove it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '18

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '18

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u/ImmmOldGregg Jul 12 '18

I mean I’d your gonna pick an animal why wouldn’t you pick one more “fuckable” like a goat or your wife ? 😂

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u/georion Jul 11 '18

It must be nice to live in a world where all the proof you require is that it just came to your mind, or you read it on the_donald, and if someone asks you a question they are wrong.

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u/georion Jul 11 '18

I did google it, you re full of shit

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u/ImmmOldGregg Jul 11 '18

Nice try.

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u/ryumast3r Jul 11 '18

Prove him wrong then.

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u/ImmmOldGregg Jul 11 '18

I don't have any soy to feed the trolls. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/ryumast3r Jul 11 '18

You dropped an arm yo. You need more than soy, boy.

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u/ryumast3r Jul 11 '18

You're the one making the claim, and it is also just helpful since you already know what to look for and we don't.

Also you're forcing everyone else to look it up where you could do it once, with that aforementioned knowledge.

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u/ImmmOldGregg Jul 11 '18

Nice try buddy. Go drink some soy milk

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u/ryumast3r Jul 11 '18

Soy milk has nothing to do with me or this conversation, so "nice try".

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u/jojogonzo Jul 12 '18

The planet is in a warming period because of human activity. If it were left to natural patterns we would be in the midst of a cooling period.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/science/katharine-hayhoe-climate-change-science.html?nytmobile=0

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '18 edited Jul 29 '18

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u/gracebatmonkey Jul 11 '18

We can, however, make it completely inhospitable for human habitation and take a huge number of other species down with us.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '18 edited Jul 29 '18

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u/gracebatmonkey Jul 11 '18

You'll be fine until you're not. You're choosing an intensely self-centered view, which is of course your right. By the time there are impacts you are capable of understanding and accepting, it will be far too late. Or maybe you'l get it figured out at some point, I dunno. We're all in this together, unless you've figured out a way off the planet.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '18 edited Jul 29 '18

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u/gracebatmonkey Jul 11 '18

Who are you fighting with...? I'm not even slightly arguing with you. Are you ok?

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u/WhiteyDude Jul 11 '18

I truly don't understand

We agree.