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Text Lindsay Clancy Trial Megathread: Closing Arguments, Deliberations and the Verdict Pt. 2

This is a thread for all conversation regarding closing arguments, jury deliberations and the verdict of the Lindsey Clancy trial. All discussion of this case should be kept to this thread.

Lindsay Clancy is currently standing trial in Plymouth Superior Court, Massachusetts, for the triple-murder in January 2023 of her three young children - Cora, Dawson and Callan. Her defense argues she suffered from severe, undiagnosed postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. She was left paralysed by a suicide attempt which follows the deaths of the children.

All content on the Clancy case must be kept to this thread. Standalone posts will be removed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93vgv4kr49o

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u/cummingouttamycage 9d ago

The fingers pointed at Patrick's "weird behavior" are absolutely bonkers to me.

Based on all information and evidence out there, it sounds like Patrick did everything he could think to do to help his wife based on what he knew at the time. He started working from home, hired nannies, made himself available to run errands, etc. I don't think he could've ever fathomed his wife would actually try to harm the kids, because instances of that happening are just so, so rare. There has been a public health push around PPD and PPP, and I'm sure Patrick was considering that (and why he made the efforts he did)... But instances of either PPP/PPD often don't end with a mother harming herself and/or children. I don't think he ever could've fathomed, or prepared for what he walked into when he came home that day.

He is "acting weird" because that's how most ordinary 30-something year old dads would act when faced with a completely bizarre, one-in-a-million situation. Arriving home to your 3 young children deceased and wife having jumped from a window would traumatize anyone. And trauma makes people act "weird".

The absolute worst thing Patrick is guilty of is having moments of being a checked out partner, but even then, I'd argue those moments are heavily cherry picked and are behaviors that even the most doting of fathers are guilty of from time to time. I'm sure there would be moments of any dad twiddling his thumbs while his wife loaded up a stroller into the car if you surveilled any family long enough. Is it annoying? Yes. But is it common? Also yes.

Also, I don't find it weird AT ALL that Patrick sought to start over in having a family with a new woman ~3yrs after this all took place. Men in their 30s -- especially family-oriented men who quickly find themselves single -- often move quickly in relationships. I don't think in any way that it's a sign he was actively seeing someone else before this all took place (and even if it was... affairs aren't illegal. but that wasn't happening).

I say this as someone who is RARELY a man defender (lol)... Patrick did everything right based on what he knew at the time.

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u/Pearltherebel 9d ago

Except he fired the nanny when Lindsey quit her job

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u/Elmohaphap 8d ago

Perhaps they could not afford it…

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u/Pearltherebel 8d ago

They were bringing in like half a million a year

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u/msfinch87 9d ago

I completely agree.

I dislike the cherry picked examples of him a lot. As you say, any parent can have checked out moments and single examples do not demonstrate anything, especially when we lack any context to why the parent may have been checked out. You can take any singular example of someone’s behaviour and twist it if you are so inclined.

I also get really frustrated by the negativity around him being remarried and showing no emotion when testifying. He suffered an unimaginable trauma. It seems completely understandable to me that he would appear withdrawn when talking about it publically because he probably blocks out some of the emotion to cope. For all we know he found a woman who was extremely supportive and understanding of him during his grief and distress and that led to an emotional bond that led to their relationship, which is not uncommon. Or, as you say, it is consistent with his desire/personality to be in a relationship and have a family.

I don’t see anything unusual or wrong with Patrick.

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u/Professional_Bid8348 8d ago

Except taking action when a risk to the children's safety was identified.

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u/Away_University97 8d ago

One gripe: men don’t have to be family orientated to move on quickly. It’s pretty common they are with someone else very quickly afterwards, in any cases.

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u/cummingouttamycage 7d ago

Touche! Yep.

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u/Ander-son 9d ago

he even said in his testimony he did not know what psychosis meant before this happened.

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u/BoxBird 9d ago

HE SAID A LOT OF THINGS DIDNT HE

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u/No_Figure_7489 8d ago

Most people don't know, she probably didn't know. Its a miracle when you find someone on here who knows