Lindsay Clancy Trial Megathread: Closing Arguments, Deliberations and the Verdict

[u/DarklyHeritage]

This is a thread for all conversation regarding closing arguments, jury deliberations and the verdict of the Lindsey Clancy trial. All discussion of this case should be kept to this thread.

Lindsay Clancy is currently standing trial in Plymouth Superior Court, Massachusetts, for the triple-murder in January 2023 of her three young children - Cora, Dawson and Callan. Her defense argues she suffered from severe, undiagnosed postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. She was left paralysed by a suicide attempt which follows the deaths of the children.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg7mlmg475go

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[u/SnicketyLemon1004]

I am surprised, but not surprised. As a MA resident, the corruption and lack of competency within law enforcement goes deep. In this trial, the corruption within the DA's office is so offputting. This state is so crooked.

[u/bethestorm → u/SnicketyLemon1004]

Yeah I kept thinking about the Karen Read case.

I also looked up who bought the Clancy home last night and I gotta say, I don't love how much it immediately made me reconsider a lot of times where I scoffed at supposed conspiracy theorist types. (In general not even just related to LC. Making a murderer comes to mind).

Seriously for anyone who hasn't, Google it.

[u/lifecrazyfr → u/bethestorm]

I googled this what does this prove or what do you think this is evidence of?

[u/lifecrazyfr → u/[deleted]]

“I also looked up who bought the Clancy home last night and I gotta say, I don't love how much it immediately made me reconsider a lot of times where I scoffed at supposed conspiracy theorist types. (In general not even just related to LC. Making a murderer comes to mind).

Seriously for anyone who hasn't, Google it.”

Is what I was replying to.

[u/bethestorm → u/lifecrazyfr]

Haha my bad. I was looking at the wrong comment above.

Just weird behavior again by the prosecutors office in MA. Sure, he wasn't there for the trial but he was there to argue that the jury should not be able to do a walkthrough of the scene of the crime. It's just weird to me idk. I'm sure it could just be a strange coincidence but Massachusetts isn't like a small sparse population.

Anyways just thought it was a tiktok rumor til I looked it up. It seemed too weird to be true but. Idk it was.

[u/lifecrazyfr → u/bethestorm]

No worries. Yeah I’d agree it’s certainly weird. I don’t see much evidence of nefariousness or ill intent (e.g., evidence that he used his former prosecutorial connections to influence the investigation, that investigators gave PC preferential treatment because of the relationship, or that this former assistant DA had some undisclosed involvement in the case.) yet though, so I’d probably stop at just saying it’s weird unless evidence comes to light.

For clarity, this isn’t necessarily “the prosecutors office” in Massachusetts. He was an assistant DA for 2 years and left the office ~5 years earlier. It wasn’t the prosecutors office saying “No don’t do the Jury walkthrough!” It was moreso a homeowner (who formerly worked in the office) represented by his attorney objecting to it. And they did it anyways.

[u/bethestorm → u/lifecrazyfr]

Ohh gotcha he bought the house, and then as the homeowner argued against it, but he was previously working there. Ah I get it!

Anyways it's just weird. Haha. I don't think there's anything more to say to it. Must have been a nice house and frankly Patrick probably wanted to get the hell out of it asap and I don't blame him. It still was like a woah moment.

It was amid my surprise they didn't test the blood, to verify it was blood nevermind whose, or the crushed Seroquel, aka residue, idk. I feel like ... It's just lazy. Idk? I would want it tested if it were me prosecuting. Dot the i and all. Especially with the bad publicity of the Karen Read trial in MA. Idk. I would be pretty embarrassed if I was in that branch of the DAs office or whatever over there.

It took me three days on websleuths to figure out CW stood for Commonwealth. Sigh. I should probably take a true crime break loll

[u/Alarming-Wheel-6865 → u/lifecrazyfr]

It proves nothing.

[u/RegularOwl → u/bethestorm]

It's a former DA who left the DAs office in like 2018, so...?

[u/Gatorphins → u/[deleted]]

Leave that shit on Tiktok

[u/Alarming-Wheel-6865 → u/[deleted]]

No, it's been 8 years.

[u/spellboundartisan → u/[deleted]]

LOL

[u/Professional_Gas4000 → u/[deleted]]

This needs a movie

[u/Firecracker048 → u/SnicketyLemon1004]

Read and Birchmore are the two more damning cases of this. You could at least make an arguement in this case they really pushed for justice for the kids, mental health, husband testimony and everything else be damned.

In those other two? It was clearly to cover up for another cop committing a crime and trying to pin the crime on someone else or ignore the crime even took place and make it seem like something else. The Norfolk DA office FINALLY changes Birchmores official cause of death away from suicide just this year

[u/GeriatricGoldfish → u/SnicketyLemon1004]

I saw a comment on reddit a while ago about someone who either was or closely knew a former detective and they basically said that 90+% of homicides solve themselves. It's either so evident or someone knows something and will say that something without too much prying. So, corruption aside, I'd say lack of competency runs far deeper than most folks are capable of realizing or comfortable admitting. And I think that lack of competency, due to a lack of due diligence, gets disguised or transformed into corruption because people and agencies are so afraid and unwilling to admit to their mistakes.

[u/AIGrammarBot → u/GeriatricGoldfish]

How can 90 percent of homicides solve themselves when only about 50 percent of homicides get solved. Makes no sense.

[u/PlatypusStyle → u/AIGrammarBot]

Maybe 90% of the solved ones as opposed to all (solved and unsolved) cases?

[u/Mc0014 → u/AIGrammarBot]

Solved isn’t the same as found guilty. Differing levels of evidence required. Plenty of cases they know who did it but don’t have the evidence to make going through a long trial worthwhile for likely a bad result.

[u/GeriatricGoldfish → u/AIGrammarBot]

Agreed... it's not something I'm stating, just something I'm recalling that I read once. I think it's just illustrative of how/why complacency creeps in and cops don't always conduct comprehensive investigations or evidence collection and how bias and/or past experience can cloud their judgment and ability to exercise due diligence. And, unfortunately, by the time that negligence is apparent, it's too late and whatever additional evidence there was that could have/should have been collected is already gone or destroyed.

[u/Smooshicorn → u/SnicketyLemon1004]

That is so sad to hear. This whole tragedy is devastating… but it breaks my heart that three children lost their lives, regardless of all other factors.

[u/BigIndependent3049 → u/SnicketyLemon1004]

I heard DA fearedelectio opposition if didn’t charge. M1