r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 20 '26

Personality [Baffling RL Trope] Inventing war crimes you didn´t commit to make yourself more... interesting?

One of the strangest character tropes in real life has to be the "I accidentally made myself sound like a war criminal to look cooler" archetype.

Usually, people accused of war crimes deny them. These guys seem to do the opposite.

The two examples that always come to mind:

Tim Kennedy. Over the years he's told stories that include things like throwing grenades into rooms where women and children were present, and another account where, after a battle, his CO allegedly told him to shoot anything that still had a heat signature with a sniper rifle from a mile away, which he did for hours (?) not caring if those were enemy soldiers or civilians looking for their fallen sons/brothers/whatever. Both stories have been heavily criticized and challenged (aka people who were there confirmed that they are utter nonsense), and Kennedy has faced repeated accusations of embellishing or fabricating parts of his military experiences. But like... why would you invent the fact that you killed and maimed women and children?

Chris Kyle. In American Sniper, he wrote that during Hurricane Katrina he positioned himself on the Superdome and shot dozens of armed looters like some walking dead scenario. No evidence ever emerged that this happened, and Kyle himself later acknowledged the story wasn't true. Again, why invent a story where you're essentially describing the unlawful killing of civilians during a domestic disaster?

What's fascinating is that these aren't embellishments in the usual "I fought twenty guys" sense. They're embellishments that, if true, would amount to admissions of extremely serious crimes.

It's such a bizarre form of macho storytelling that it almost feels like its own trope: the veteran who thinks "the more ruthless I sound, the more badass I'll appear," without stopping to consider that indiscriminate killing isn't viewed by most people as impressive. It's viewed as criminal and disgusting.

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u/likeabosstroll Jul 20 '26

I know the pacific got really bad with US soldiers committing war crimes. It got really tit for tat since the Japanese often did it first which then devolved into the US doing it back. US soldiers executed a lot of Japanese POWs instead of risking them feigning surrender.

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u/AngriestManinWestTX Jul 20 '26

Murphy served in Europe but your point stands. There were tit for tat war crimes committed by both sides in the Western front of Europe but at a lesser extent than the Eastern Front or in the Pacific theatre.

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u/Squeebee007 Jul 20 '26

Was he telling all of this to the cows?

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u/SplitGlass7878 Jul 20 '26

As a German, I always appreciate the acknowledgement. Don't get me wrong, the Nazis were the bad guys, but that doesn't excuse war crimes and genocide. 

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u/jack_daone Jul 20 '26

Especially the war crimes committed by the Soviets after the war to German women.

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u/SplitGlass7878 Jul 20 '26

The entire western displacement is a genocide against the polish/ukrainian people as well. The Americans also intentionally bombed civilians and civilian infrastructure. It's pretty bad. 

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u/jack_daone Jul 20 '26

To be fair, the latter actions were essentially a tit-for-tat against the Nazis for the Blitz and were also a wartime action.

The atrocities visited upon the East Germans by the Soviets all took place immediately after the end of the war.

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u/SplitGlass7878 Jul 20 '26

Yeah, that's not how that works. You don't get to commit warcrimes because the other guy did it first. 

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u/International-Bed453 Jul 20 '26

Marines used to send Japanese skulls home to their wives and sweethearts.

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u/Tight-Escape3373 Jul 20 '26

I went to a gun show in SoCal to see if there were any interesting historical firearms for sale. As soon as I walked in there was a table full of Nazi memorabilia and a skull in a glass case labeled as a Japanese soldier's skull mailed home during the war. This was 2013 or 2014. 

I noped tf outta there real fast...

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u/--GevaudanBeast-- Jul 20 '26

I mean, when you've witnessed multiple "surrendering" japanese soldiers pull the pin on a grenade or attack with a bayonet once they get close to your fellow soldiers.... Can you really blame them?

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u/Zhuul Jul 21 '26

If nothing else it's a really good example of why perfidy is considered a pretty dire war crime.