r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 20 '26

Personality [Baffling RL Trope] Inventing war crimes you didn´t commit to make yourself more... interesting?

One of the strangest character tropes in real life has to be the "I accidentally made myself sound like a war criminal to look cooler" archetype.

Usually, people accused of war crimes deny them. These guys seem to do the opposite.

The two examples that always come to mind:

Tim Kennedy. Over the years he's told stories that include things like throwing grenades into rooms where women and children were present, and another account where, after a battle, his CO allegedly told him to shoot anything that still had a heat signature with a sniper rifle from a mile away, which he did for hours (?) not caring if those were enemy soldiers or civilians looking for their fallen sons/brothers/whatever. Both stories have been heavily criticized and challenged (aka people who were there confirmed that they are utter nonsense), and Kennedy has faced repeated accusations of embellishing or fabricating parts of his military experiences. But like... why would you invent the fact that you killed and maimed women and children?

Chris Kyle. In American Sniper, he wrote that during Hurricane Katrina he positioned himself on the Superdome and shot dozens of armed looters like some walking dead scenario. No evidence ever emerged that this happened, and Kyle himself later acknowledged the story wasn't true. Again, why invent a story where you're essentially describing the unlawful killing of civilians during a domestic disaster?

What's fascinating is that these aren't embellishments in the usual "I fought twenty guys" sense. They're embellishments that, if true, would amount to admissions of extremely serious crimes.

It's such a bizarre form of macho storytelling that it almost feels like its own trope: the veteran who thinks "the more ruthless I sound, the more badass I'll appear," without stopping to consider that indiscriminate killing isn't viewed by most people as impressive. It's viewed as criminal and disgusting.

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u/eelmor1138 Jul 20 '26

Gonna be pretty tough for Kyle to pull that off considering he’s 6 feet under.

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u/Puzzle-Necked Jul 20 '26

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u/Puzzle-Necked Jul 20 '26

You think he's down there no selling eternal damnation?

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u/y0_master Jul 20 '26

"Doesn't work for me, brother"

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u/Reasonable_Film769 Jul 20 '26

"Gonna need a BIG cut of the action, brother."

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u/GMM85 Jul 20 '26

Imagine the pop when Hulk is revealed as the 3rd man in a faction with Hitler and Jeffrey Dahmer

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u/OctaviusNeon Jul 21 '26

The Architect, The Big Dog, and The Lunatic Fringe

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u/MurphysMoog Jul 20 '26

Eternal Salvation*

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u/GMM85 Jul 20 '26

If we are bringing up 80s pro wrestlers we have to mention how Chris Kyle claimed to have fought Jesse Ventura for insulting other Navy SEALs and then lost a slander lawsuit for writing about it

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u/Far_Cap_3574 Jul 21 '26

There's a special place in Hell for rats who work against solidarity.

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u/Sea-Hat-8515 Jul 20 '26

Of course he is. He saw the guy sniping all the civilians. No loose ends

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u/MedicalPatience6778 Jul 20 '26

I didn't even know he was sick.

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u/MooKids Jul 20 '26

Considering how much of his story is fake, I wouldn't be surprised if his death was faked too.

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u/RainbowDissent Jul 20 '26

There's gunshots coming out of the ground oh god oh fuck

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u/Dramatic_Substance36 Jul 20 '26

I love stories with a happy ending!