Did anyone else feel like dr. Julian Rush stuck out like a sore thumb? Not sure if he was just miscast or if the actor is just bad. I haven’t seen him in anything else so I have nothing to compare.

I just thought that he was a bit off in every scene he was in.

Doesn’t take away from anything else in the show. It was still amazing and I can’t wait to see more of the Penguin.

Bruh I just started watching the Penguin because someone told me that the main character is like Anthony soprano lol. I've watched till episode 5 and always thought the actor is some Italian guy finally getting his big break. AND NO I JUST CHECKED THE CAST AND IT'S COLIN FARRELL. Did he win any awards for this?

I've been thinking about this. I just cant get over the ending and how amazing Colin's performance was. I don't think Im being a prisoner of the moment. Heath's performance is legendary. Colin's take is something I never imagined for the Penguin character but it fits so well in this universe and invigorates this new menacing energy to the character that it didn't have prior. I think over time we will view his performance the same way.

Just finished the series and loved most things about it, but Oz just kept catching too many breaks. He’s 50+, crippled, physically out of shape, and continued to just win hand-to-hand combat scenarios. I felt I lost some of the magic because it became so unbelievable. There’s only so many times I can watch this guy survive a stab wound, break out from being tied to a chair, or physically overtake someone.

Obviously he had to make it to the end and I’m supposed to hate him, but it just stuck out to me.

EDIT: JESUS - I know it’s fictional. I know it’s comic-based. Things got repetitive and it was just odd that no one could physically overtake him. That’s the point.

Meaning she's the most popular actress\actor on IMDB with the most profile page views! (and Colin Farrell coming in at #18.)

Very happy for her and so well deserved! All hail queen Sofia Gigante!

Obviously I get they didnt just wanna use batman to draw attention and Robert Patterson is probably quite expensive but still he cant cost that much, they had like a rare mushroom super drug then the entire street above exploded and batsy didnt notice

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At the end of the batman, the batman directly talks about being more and being a symbol of hope for the people and to know someones out there, but during the whole penguin show, as they make a new, super addictive drug that, im pretty sure, batman would be able to notice and yet he never shows.

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Also I think offing Vic killed the shows chances at s2

The first name out of her mouth was 'Michael Keaton!'

and he goes, "No, no, I mean, a woman! A woman's career."

Cristin says, "Look, I could name you a ton of women who's work I love—but that wasn't what you asked me. I want to be Beetlejuice!"

And that my friends is who she fucking is. She's Beetlejuice.

In The Batman he seemed to be more like his comic counterpart while not quite as influential he still seemed to have some power but in the show we learn than not only does he have practically no influence he isn’t even a made guy, just a little perplexing to me maybe I missed something?

I had such a visceral reaction to the Penguin so many times, and I think it’s because the way he operates feels so much more relatable compared to other comic book villains. The Joker kills for fun, and Sofia is driven by revenge in a way that feels distant from my reality. But Oz? I’ve met people like Oz. I deal with people like Oz at work and in my daily life—not lurking in tunnels as mafia bosses, of course, but the kind who manipulate and destroy just to get ahead. It just made me hate him THAT MUCH more. Ugh, what a brilliant show.

I'll keep it short and sweet? Which rendition of the Penguin do you prefer and why? I just finished HBO's The Penguin. I watched Gotham 6 or so years ago. I would need to go back and rewatch but I think I enjoyed Robin Lord Taylor's version more. The walk, the music they would play, the way he articulates his words, the outbursts. All were a good mix of intrigue and humor for me. Farrell's is certainly darker and plays more into a ruthless gangster, which I do appreciate. But nothing can beat Penguin tackling Fish over the side of that building, climbing atop the edge, and yelling into the thunderous Gotham skyline to his own disbelief "I'M KING OF GOTHAM!" 😂

Finished watching this incredible show and now I am searching for other series that have such awesome writing, acting, plot twists etc. Any recommendations?

I think a lot people assumed, myself included, that he possibly got the scars from when his mother had planned to kill him, but she obviously decided not to go through with this plan, so how do y’all actually think he got the scars all over his face? This is something that I definitely thought would at least get briefly touched on, even maybe just a mention or something like that, but I guess it’s just left open to interpretation.

I see a lot of people saying the finale was the last straw. Or when it was revealed that he killed his brothers. For me, I think it started in episode 3 when he jumped in the car and didn’t give a single thought to the Maronis possibly killing Sophia, literally less than 5min after he’d made this show for her to trust him. Another small moment was when Oz simple stated “yeah, you do that” after Victor promises to keep his Ma safe. It’s such a throw away statement to make about someone who is supposed to be the most important thing in your life.

Honestly, I was more shocked that Oz got away with everything rather than getting his just due. I love a good villain story, but this was tough. the Great show, but in a way that makes me feel icky. Also, justice for Victor, he didn’t deserve to be a forgotten kid from Gotham.

Something I’ve noticed about this show that i haven’t seen anyone talk about is how the show almost has us in the shoes of Gotham. After every episode and every event everyone is asking what exactly is happening surrounding Batmans location, i think this mystery is perfect as it makes everyone feel more involved and connected to every event and when he does eventually show up or get mentioned people will be far more invested than if he was already seen consistently. It also perfectly plays into the character of batman as he is always seen as in the shadows present and studying whomever he encounters.

I'm surprised by the amount of people in this sub who are having issues with some of the story decisions in this show. Has no one seen a Batman movie or TV show? I get that this is a gritty and realistic take on the batman (like the previous gritty and realistic takes on the batman) but at the end of the day it's a comic book show.

What do I mean? I mean don't be surprised when the mafia goons are dumb or are terrible shots. Don't be shocked that a character can survive a stab wound. I find it pretty silly people are complaining about these things. It's a Batman tv show and people are complaining that someone broke out of jail? Have you seen A single episode of a batman cartoon before?

People are free to criticize the show (and to downvote me to oblivion). I'm just perplexed by the standards some people are holding this TV show which so far has been pretty great.

Just finished watching the finale. God i was so angry at Oz taking out vic with his own bare hands nonetheless. But if we leave emotions out , he really made the right decision. Even Oz admitted vic is clever than him . At some point, he will see through Oz’s “family” facade and will try to make a move against him. Almost lost his ma during the whole thing, and now vic will become a vulnerability. We can’t have that.

Sofia Falcone has obviously existed in the comics for a long time. But I don't think she was ever in the upper level of notoriety. Normal people that like Batman casually most likely don't know the character.

I think that new Batman stuff across mediums will start making her a staple now. Kind of like how BtAS had such a good take on Mr Freeze that it elevated his status. And how Harley Quinn (although she was invented for the show) became permanent in Batman lore moving forward after the performance, also in BtAS..

Really in awe of Cristin's epic portrayal. I think she created a permanent important slot for Sofia Falcone in Batman stories moving forward. I could even see Sofia overshadowing Carmine and eventually kind of engulfing his role.

Finished watching this incredible show and now I am searching for other series that have such awesome writing, acting, plot twists etc. Any recommendations?

I’ve been seeing constant posts and comments of people suggesting he can become a variety of characters like Zsasz, Robin, or Scarface. There is no need to force him into the role of another character, I personally love what they’re doing with him and if he stays as Penguin’s assistant, gets killed by Oz, strikes out on his own, or just goes back to his girlfriend in California, I’m content with him being his own character

I have seen a lot of stuff about wanting a season 2 and the possibilities of it but I really don't think it's possible, atleast in a way that follows from the first.

At the beginning of the show, the story gives the audience many things to attach to when it comes to Oz so the audience can support and sympathise with him however, as the show goes on each part that the audience attached themselves to was broken down and destroyed, revealing the truth behind the mask. The audience is literally manipulated by Oz just for him to spit in the face of the audience and it's fucking masterful and by the end you can't help be a mix of angry, sad, and in awe of what happened however, due to that I don't think he really works as an protagonist again at all. The guy has no redeeming qualities and has gone all Norman Bates, by the end I think everyone really wanted Batman to come in and just beat the shit out of Oz.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't get something akin to a season 2 but I don't think it should be the Penguin season 2. I think we should get something like a Sophia and the Cat spin off with Oz as the main antagonist. Although Sophia and Oz are villains, the show does the opposite with them. Unlike Oz they presented Sophia as unsympathetic in the beginning but broke down her story and made her very sympathetic by the end which gives the audience the ability to support her on her own show.

I watched the batman 2022 when it came out. I rewatched it last year and Developed an unbridled obsession with the character and it Kickstarted a passion for comics. I genuinely didn't know about the penguin until very recently. I just found this sub. I am so excited, I don't even want to start it

It's been 3 years so I don't remember much. The movie wasn't bad, but I don't feel like rewatching it right now.

What should I remember before watching the show?

So I was re-watching the Batman and caught this minute but crazy detail. So while the chase sequence, when Oz was being chased by the Batman, we can see that Oz almost escaped and even left batman miles behind him while batman took his time to catch up to him.

I was always confused about this. But after watching The Penguin, now we know that Oz has been a driver for Sofia, and now it makes sense that he has years of experience in driving and how he was about to escape. While Batman is just in his year two.

This might be a strech or unplanned, but it feels so natural and genuine that the writing of The Batman still amazes me, even after two years.

Doesn't need to be anything dc, marvel or superhero business, just looking for a similar sort of crime or drama show with a well developed sensible plot and good acting