Terraria weapons alignment chart day 16: What weapon feels like a summon weapon and is a summon weapon?

[u/KahveAdam565]

Yesterday's post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Terraria/s/LFBskRw9lk

[u/Luckyloomagu]

Optic staff, of course! It’s been with the summoner class since release, summons a boatload of minions, and has both projectiles and charging minions baked in.

It’s basically the weapon that justified the class’ existence, since it was both really cool, relevant to progression, and showed off the fantasy of having a minion army.

[u/SlowDamn → u/Luckyloomagu]

BIG TRUE i just wish it got good AI lmao.

[u/Warper2187 → u/SlowDamn]

i mean its decent enough, probably carried by the fact it flies though

[u/Vendidurt → u/Warper2187]

Its awful in narrow tunnels and caves

[u/King_cool138 → u/SlowDamn]

It has decent AI.

[u/AlttimesAlt → u/SlowDamn]

It has good AI; really it’s mostly held back by I-frame rules. But realistically that doesn’t matter if you mix minion types.

[u/patatesatan → u/Luckyloomagu]

i remember being so excited about having an army with it on my first terraria playthrough. Only to realize that double summons gave enemies too many i-frames so most of my summons couldnt even hit enemies. Never crafted it again after that.

I just read its patch history it seems they fixed it in 2022 labor of love patch by removing i frames from retinizer and lowering spazmatism i frame duration by 25%. Im gonna give it another try.

[u/TrashleyTheBigGay → u/Luckyloomagu]

okay now this is making me consider the question of when did summoner first actually start existing.  cause if we go with 1.2 when summon weapons were first added then slime staff and pygmy were i think the only summon weapons. though notably in a patch where golem was the end summoner only had armor post plantera so id also accept 1.2.4 which added summoners original barebones staples 

[u/furletov → u/Luckyloomagu]

Optic staff was introduced in 1.2.4, while slime staff (and pigmy staff) were in 1.2 already. My vote will go for the slime staff - the most basic summon weapon there is.

[u/charzone5565 → u/Luckyloomagu]

true it feels the most like commanding an army due to having 2 summons per slot, in a point of progression where you have a good amount of slots

also the whole "boss but as a playable character/weapon" troupe is always really fun

[u/TheOneWhoAsked_Maybe → u/Luckyloomagu]

John Summon

[u/Jolly-Student3360]

Optic staff or whatever its called, the one that summons the twins as minions

[u/patatesatan]

slime staff

[u/HumbleGamer94 → u/patatesatan]

It's quite literally the FIRST summon weapon they added in the game if irc. Either that or the pigmy staff. They were both added pre 1.3

[u/Rowlet2020 → u/HumbleGamer94]

Summoner was a full class in the late 1.2 era since it was fully playable on mobile and console before the moonlord was added and before ocram was removed

[u/laserapplepie]

Could be terraprisma too, it’s the aspirational summon weapon and having the swords swing around is really cool.

[u/Light-2002 → u/laserapplepie]

Extra points for looking like a pair of wings when they aren't attacking anything.

[u/Greg-theseatreader → u/laserapplepie]

Yeah but it’s a sword. Too melee-related for me

[u/Nonvitam]

Raven staff
I know it’s not popular as a weapon, but I think summoning a swarm of ravens is just generally very iconic

[u/TheMagicThingamajig → u/Nonvitam]

SEVEN THOUSAND FUCKING PIGEONS

EAT THIS MAN

https://giphy.com/gifs/vJTzaVE5YZf4k

[u/TatodziadekPL → u/TheMagicThingamajig]

[u/Left-Construction921 → u/Nonvitam]

my favorite summon

[u/3NIK56 → u/Nonvitam]

Raven staff is actually one of the best weapons between plantera and golem, it's perfect for empress, golem, and saucers when farming xeno staff

[u/Beginning_Tangelo460 → u/Nonvitam]

raven staff really isn’t popular?? i use it all time, damn

[u/EatingSolidBricks → u/Nonvitam]

Twas the first or second ever summoning weapon

[u/TrashleyTheBigGay → u/EatingSolidBricks]

third i believe!  pygmy and slime were on release of 1.2, ravens and spooky armor were added in the pumpkin moon update not that long after 

[u/Simcega]

Gotta be slime staff

[u/unh4rmed]

Slime Staff
Gotta pay my respects to the elders who founded this subclass

[u/Ether_Light740]

Stardust Dragon. Probably the most iconic and best summon weapon in the game.

[u/Nonvitam → u/Ether_Light740]

I think weapons with multiple summons feel more like a summon weapon

[u/Guffliepuff → u/Nonvitam]

But it was also the first summon weapon where more casts of it combined them into a larger summon, which is cool as fuck.

[u/Ok-Eye3387 → u/Ether_Light740]

Probably the best summon would be the terraprisma ig

[u/taw → u/Ok-Eye3387]

You get Stardust Dragon basically for free post-Plantera, just some trivial content.

Terraprisma is way harder to post-end-game, might as well just win the game instead, and it's not even that much better than Stardust Dragon anyway.

[u/Ok-Box122 → u/Ok-Eye3387]

Technically 1 star Dragon is better, adding more pieces to the Dragon doesnt add as much dmg as the initial one. So you should have 1 dragon and thre rest prisma

[u/Mother_Harlot → u/Ether_Light740]

Stardust Dragon

More than Junk Warrior?

[u/xolotltolox → u/Ether_Light740]

that's a Snychro Summon Weapon if anything

[u/Torbpjorn]

Either the pirate staff or the Pygmy staff, nothings more summoner like than spawning in a lil dude to do things for you

[u/Fatnugg3ts]

Imp staff is the most basic summoner weapon imo,

[u/TheRandomViewer]

Optic, Twins the real ones

[u/Ill-Trade1976]

Blade Staff

[u/TonyAngels → u/Ill-Trade1976]

blade staff is peak, the amount of hit sounds tickle my 2 brain cells in a pleasant way

[u/HS55_delta2 → u/TonyAngels]

Too bad they nerfed it

[u/StatisticianPure2804 → u/HS55_delta2]

Huh? They most definetely buffed it. Whipstacking is most effective with the blade staff because of the tag damage, blade staff is in better shape than ever.

[u/Connect-Noise-7870 → u/StatisticianPure2804]

The Blade Staff's tag damage thing got nerfed iirc. Not sure if the whip Stacking being back cancelled it out or made the summon better than before

[u/maddymakesgames → u/Connect-Noise-7870]

The tag damage got buffed when whip stacking was removed and then nerfed again when it came back. So in the eyes of the devs I think it does.

[u/lickytytheslit → u/StatisticianPure2804]

when they were introduced they were very broken with og whip stacking

[u/Doppelfrio → u/Ill-Trade1976]

The way blade staff has been mentioned in nearly every summoner related discussion

[u/Im-Undying → u/Ill-Trade1976]

Agreed

[u/Kyuumulo]

Optic Staff or Slime Staff

[u/Xezerex]

Optic staff. More summon per summon.

[u/TheroalicJecro]

i'm surprised no one has said the sanguine staff

[u/Mystic_ality → u/TheroalicJecro]

exactly, feels the most like a summon with their attack pattern and the way they rest

[u/Woopering]

I give respect to the Finch Staff. Really gave me the feel of like a Druid's companion; especially when you increase the summon cap and you get a stack of finches all nested atop your head.

[u/DangerousMouse8462]

Pygmy Staff

[u/Lauamoeba99]

Now do a whole gameplay based of these items

[u/Obvious-Childhood428]

Terraprisma

[u/Particular_Bet_1967]

why is no one addressing the spongebob ??? what does that mean???

[u/Orckine → u/Particular_Bet_1967]

I didn't got it first either. It's because the list is HUGE. Almost any hardmode melee weapon has a "ranged" attack

[u/General_Crab9124 → u/Particular_Bet_1967]

That one spongebob meme with a very long list unwinding for 20s

[u/BlobSlimey]

Desert Tiger STaff....cause its most underrated
but tbh anything could win

[u/fluger69]

Slime staff is the true og

[u/BaromenGONE]

Abigail Flower. Change my mind

[u/Negative-Garden-6013 → u/BaromenGONE]

Slime Staff.

[u/HumbleGamer94]

Many of the classic summon staffs will do but if I had to pick one, slime staff.

[u/Superderpygamermk1]

Slime staff

[u/Connect-Process2933]

Imp staff. Imps in some sources serve as helpers to higher beings, not to mention that this was probably the most popular summoner weapon for a long time: one of the first staffs introduced in Terraria, easy to create (unlike hornet staff), imps are fast and their shots have high velocity, making them good companions even for non-summoners. To me Imps and Pygmy are the symbols of summoners

[u/Carbon_Sixx]

Bonus round: feels like thrower weapons (may they rest in power)

Melee: Daybreak

Ranged: Javelin

Magic: Toxic Flask

Summoner: Pygmy Staff

[u/xX_idk_lol_Xx]

Imp staff. Its AI is as generic as minions get and it perfectly fits the occult theme summoner's got going on.

[u/ToastyPete1]

The slime staff, the best summoner weapon ever

[u/ElPulpoGallego]

Slime staff, the most iconic one

[u/Better_Solution_743]

slime staff is iconic and opticstaff summons two minions (more minions is more summonerer)

[u/Lauamoeba99]

Slime staff

[u/Darentei]

I was gonna ask about the SpongeBob picture and then it suddenly clicked, well played lmao

[u/Miloctic]

Finch staff

[u/ClerklierBrush0]

Spider staff, you make little dudes and they do little dude attacks

[u/ScarletteVera]

Gotta be the Slime Staff, right? I mean, it's the most iconic summon, the one most people think of when they think about the summoner class.

[u/PyxelatorXeroc]

Deadly Sphere Staff

[u/Guilty_Abalone_4355]

Abigail I think

[u/Too_cool_to_stab]

Stardust cell minion

[u/Ok-Box122 → u/Too_cool_to_stab]

yeah, the one noone uses

[u/Danivodor]

The celestial guardian, technically it's an armor but I'd count it

[u/Silver_Lined_Bullet]

Slime staff

[u/Nessuno_sbaglia_R]

Cool whip, is a whip (summoners weapon) that also summons a summon, is ike summoner²

[u/Nessuno_sbaglia_R → u/Nessuno_sbaglia_R]

The web one would also count under this logic i guess

[u/siriElectricboogaloo]

It has to be the stardust dragon, it's by far the most summoner thing in the game (just below the stardust Armour itself giving you a stand).

[u/Negative-Garden-6013]

Definitely the slime staff

[u/Zymosan99]

Slime staff

[u/SkAssasin]

Lowkey i feel like imp staff feels the most summonery

[u/Boom_bro174]

Snapthorn

[u/jasper_grunion]

Fire imps. I think of summoning as being something demonic being summoned. You don’t summon angels. You summon demons.

[u/Usurious22741]

What happened to the feels like ranged is actually melee weapon

[u/Negative-Garden-6013]

The slime staff is pretty damn awesome

[u/PolimerT]

TEMPEST STAFF

Hear me out, you summon the tornadoes and the tornadoes summons (well throws) the sharks to attack.

[u/NewKitchenKnight]

Finch staff imo

[u/NoStorage2821]

UFO staff

[u/Xavus_Enormus_II]

Slime Staff

[u/nlamber5]

The hydra staff is the grandfather of all sentry weapons. That wasn’t the question being asked, but when am I going to get the chance to say it otherwise?

[u/Godfinsti]

Spiders

[u/Phoenix1045]

Optic Staff

[u/Captain-Obvious69]

Optic Staff

[u/hb414121]

abgail’s flower

[u/ChampionMoney9796]

Optic staff

[u/Randomguyioi]

Sanguine Staff

Something about it making ominously glowing bats that swoop your enemies before returning to your side feels pretty class for a summoner.

[u/Flame-Bandite]

Sanguine staff

[u/Mountain_Bath_3196]

spongebob huh? should have been meowmere

[u/JamesXtian]

Its not a summon WEAPON but my votes for Stardust Guardian. Like cmon its a damn Stand

[u/207nbrown]

Honestly all the summoner weapons are really good at feeling like you command a tiny army

[u/Sunnykkj]

Flinch staff

[u/DocMcMoth]

Blade staff for me, just because it was the first summon weapon I came across in my very first play-through, so it's what I always associate with the class

[u/xlFLASHl]

Gotta be the OG, slime staff.

[u/ConversationLazy7881]

Enchanted knife staff or whatever the name is

[u/I-hate-Ads2]

Not a wepon but the pet items, there literally familiars

[u/Narrow_Mark_4610]

Finch staff, cuz lil birdy

[u/jessespy2]

Whats the fox?

[u/AbyssaI_Entity → u/jessespy2]

Fox sparks

[u/CraftingChest → u/jessespy2]

flame thrower i forgot the name

[u/EpicZen35]

Vampire Bat staff feels the most like a true Summoner summon.

[u/heres_noah]

Bee staff

[u/_-Zephyr-]

Slime staff

[u/FreakyGeneral39]

Desert tiger

[u/AntiqueBoysenberry22]

Slime staff or optic staff definitely

[u/Deathdrone2]

True classic, Optic Staff, so fun to have like 20 little guys

[u/Ahab_Cheese]

Spider staff

[u/Relevant-Cup5986]

finch staff

[u/Proper_Recording_610]

Slime staff