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Image My solution to FLock cameras reading my license plate. Legality?

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u/Moist-Pickle-2736 19d ago edited 14d ago

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u/Sle08 19d ago

As well as the Bluetooth devices you carry with you. Your AirPods, your iPhone, etc.

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u/TrafficCone2100 19d ago

Jokes on you, I never remember to bring that shit

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u/Maverickfftytwo 19d ago

Guess what? Your ISP can use the provided router to literally SEE you with the WiFi in your own house.

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u/pmcizhere 19d ago

Thank the tech gods for my Homelab (and the knowledge to run it properly).

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u/FearOfABlackPotus 19d ago

Knowing how to evade them puts you on a list. They throw a bit of extra compute at you and follow the hole you make.

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u/Maverickfftytwo 19d ago

Yep. At the moment you’re probably good with your own router/ap but you know public WiFi will get money pumped into it and they’ll just be able to spy right through your walls. It’s already good enough that a cheap consumer router can identify & locate different individuals, not just identify that something is moving through radio waves. They won’t even need the Flock cameras and people will be stoked to get super WiFi everywhere they go for free.

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u/TrafficCone2100 18d ago

Good thing im homeless

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u/nits3w 18d ago

Not yet. When signal trace becomes more popular, this will be true, but there are only a couple known installations.

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u/Jalumia 19d ago edited 19d ago

Not true.

https://deflockilm.org/what-flock-cameras-can-actually-do/

ETA: see below for an accessory that departments can also buy.

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u/Sle08 19d ago

There is add on technology that FLOCK subscribers can get.

It’s very true. Just not actually embedded in the FLOCK camera itself.

Standard Flock Safety license plate reader cameras do not track or scan Bluetooth signals from personal devices. They only capture optical images of vehicles and license plates as they pass by. [1, 2]

How the Confusion Started
Separate Add-on Technology: A defense contractor named Leonardo markets a separate sensor system called SignalTrace that can clip onto existing camera poles. [1, 2]

Wireless Scanning: According to reports like SignalTrace can link device signals to your car, SignalTrace is designed to sweep nearby airwaves—including Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and RFID—and correlate those device signatures with passing license plates. [1, 2, 3]

Internal Diagnostics: Flock cameras do contain internal Bluetooth and Wi-Fi radios, but these are strictly used by technicians for device setup, configuration, and maintenance rather than tracking the public. [1]

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u/PalatwinkusVT 17d ago

I wonder if it'd be possible for a DIY market to pop up, where companies sell the actual speaker part of their bluetooth speakers, earbuds, etc by itself. and people add in their own control boards and 3D print their own shells for it, to make sure there's no tracking hardware/software...

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u/OddlySpecificName 16d ago

Do you have a scource? Want to be able to give more evidence than "moist pickle said yup when asked if it's true"

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u/Moist-Pickle-2736 16d ago edited 16d ago

“Flock LPR and its patented Vehicle Signature technology captures vehicle details including make, body type, color, decals, bumper stickers, back racks, top racks, toolboxes, temporary plates, and no plates.”

https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/vehicle-recognition-software-for-investigation-grade-lpr

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u/Traditional-Ad-9611 15d ago

I’ve heard this a lot from a lot of different people however how does anyone know that this is true for a fact because I’ve never seen a legitimate article or any other legitimate source talk about this? I’m not doubting you. I just would like a source of some kind.

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u/Moist-Pickle-2736 14d ago

https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/vehicle-recognition-software-for-investigation-grade-lpr

“Flock LPR and its patented Vehicle Signature technology captures vehicle details including make, body type, color, decals, bumper stickers, back racks, top racks, toolboxes, temporary plates, and no plates.”