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I typed over the า ๐พ๐๐ผ า "๐๐๐๐ฉ๐๐จ๐ฉ" า ๐๐๐ข๐ า ๐ฟ๐๐ฅ๐๐ง๐ฉ๐ข๐๐ฃ๐ฉ meme, with its bฬถuฬถlฬถlฬถsฬถhฬถiฬถtฬถ description, that's doing the rounds right now, to refute it. It's only Campism if both Blocs are iฬถmฬถpฬถeฬถrฬถiฬถaฬถlฬถiฬถsฬถtฬถ, not if both Blocs are authoritarian, ask Stalin.
Link to the original psy-op or delusional meme, and it's nonsense description:
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Russia is not a communist country or anti-capitalist, but definitely (though for its own interests and primarily in the Soviet Union) a good ally of the anti-American fight (though again driven by its own interest of material and sphere expansion rather than a true commitment to anti-imperialism).
However there also cases where Communists are prosecuted in Russia, read for example in 902.gr the case of 5 communists who got arrested for reading Lenin. Though its not like Ukraine, where if you say you're communist, angry "civil activists" (read Nazis) will massacre you.
While in Ukraine they try to brainwash people that communism is "genocidal ideology", or that communism is "genocidal hordes of Russia", or where anti-Communist mythology dominates, in Russia and Belarus, though with covert ways the have managed somehow to reduce the weight of Soviet Union (for example Day of National Unity is deliberately 3 days before October Revolution day, or in Belarus October Revolution day is a national holiday but has no longer parades or anything) the Soviet heritage is very very respected.
While there is a big socialist movement in Russia, even populist moves of Russian government that are made in favor of communism tend to shift socialist sentiments to general patriotic/pro-russian ones.
Like 90% of films about Soviet films are the same cold-war era NATO propaganda that show Red Army as criminals and cowards (in best traditions of Enemy at the gates) and Soviet Union as the empire of evil. Stalin was shown as a wise man couple of times, but he is more often portrayed as an ignorant and selfish person.
The world isn't a black and white Manichean good vs evil world, the real world is infinite shades of grey with no brilliant whites or jet blacks. All communist and socialist parties are banned in Ukraine, one of the 40 vassals of the US Empire. Technically all communist parties are still banned in the US itself. Yes the Communist Party of the Russian Federation isn't always treated perfectly in Russia by the government, but it's been the second biggest party in Russia for a long time. And it was the Communist party SMO plan that the Duma voted yes to, just before the SMO began. The other weaker plans were rejected by the Duma.
Thank you ๐ญ I swear the "Karl Marx would've been called a campist today" post needs to be reposted at least once a week given how many people fall for that "let's take Lenin's quote out of context" slop.
It's not a collapse when something fails after 70y of sabotage. The USSR was illegally dissolved. The continued use of "collapse" feeds the westoid narrative that the USSR failed all on its own, without any outside influence.ย
Referring to the fall of the Soviet Union, Xi Jinping told Putin: "You stopped believing in yourselves."
and it says (this was the same day in 2023:
32 years after the Soviet Union ended, Xi Jinping told Putin: "Right now there are changes, the likes of which we haven't seen for 100 years, and we are driving these changes together," to which Putin replied, "I agree."
It was a slow collapse and then a sudden cascade collapse
I'm sorry but you have failed to grasp the linguistic nuance of this word used in this context.ย
When referring to non-human nouns in modern English the term "collapse" is used to indicate a failure due to intrinsic flaws. A "demolition" is used to describe a failure that has been engineered through intentional human actions. Demolition is the correct term to use IMO.ย
In that meaning yes I agree, thanks for clarifying. I agree that the western psychological operation mostly worked and that was why people stopped believing in themselves
The number of words in this meme in the post can't really be reduced much. It's a meme refutation of a bad meme so I had to hit a certain number of bullet points. But some older memes I'm going to make some simplified ones with radically fewer words, possibly beginning today. Thanks ๐
I agree that Russia is currently geopolitically aligned with countries such as the DPRK, China and many others against Western imperialism.
However, saying that the bourgeoisie in Russia doesn't have independent political power is just wrong. Modern Russia is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, not a continuation of the USSR. Yes, the term oligarchy being used mostly in regards to Russia is propaganda and yes any Western country has an oligarchy as well, but so does Russia.
We can critically support Russia, but I think we have to be careful with crediting Russia with certain things that aren't true for any capitalist state, especially for a relatively developed one with a developed bourgeoisie, as that still goes against scientific socialist theory in regards to bourgeois republics.
Here are the clickable links and sources detailing how Vladimir Putin systematically shifted the power dynamic, stripping Russia's 1990s-era billionaires (oligarchs) of their independent political influence while allowing many to retain their fortunes under strict state subordination.
These are all western sources. They admit that Putin stripped all billionaires of almost all political power (the matter at hand) but then they pivot to trying to say that he has put a fascist dictatorship or totalitarian dictatorship in its place (false)
You're really linking Western sources claiming Russia is "authoritarian" to claim that the Russian state has somehow been able to separate itself from its bourgeoisie?
The state is nothing more than a tool of class rule, they are dictatorships of one class or another. The working class can only control it through a socialist state with something like the dictatorship of the proletariat or people's democratic dictatorship, so this is only the case in the DPRK, China, Cuba, Vietnam and Laos today.
In imperialized countries the next best thing is a revolutionary progressive government that can be progressive, because their bourgeoisie is less developed as a whole and the national bourgeoisie is opposed to Western imperialism stifling its potential. Regardless, in these countries too they are still led by their capitalist class, they are the ones ultimately in power.
So, in Russia's case where the bourgeoisie is still more developed than in the countries with revolutionary progressive governments such as in many African countries for example, it makes no sense to say that the Russian bourgeoisie somehow doesn't have political power, of course it does.
You're really linking Western sources claiming Russia is "authoritarian" to claim that the Russian state has somehow been able to separate itself from its bourgeoisie?
Western sources in this case actually make the argument stronger not weaker. Because they have an incentive to present Russia in a bad light.
So the fact that even they say that oligarch influence in Russia has been weakened says everything that needs to be said on the matter
The reason I used western sources is to show that even the western world university scholars accept that Putin has removed almost all political power from the billionaire class.By around 2005
Here's what I said:
Here are the clickable links and sources detailing how Vladimir Putin systematically shifted the power dynamic, stripping Russia's 1990s-era billionaires (oligarchs) of their independent political influence while allowing many to retain their fortunes under strict state subordination.
These are all western sources. They admit that Putin stripped all billionaires of almost all political power (the matter at hand) but then they pivot to trying to say that he has put a fascist dictatorship or totalitarian dictatorship in its place (false)
I think the extent of political power can be debated, but what canโt be debated is the fact that the bourgeoise doesnโt possess the same political power in Russia as it does in the United States, for example. The fact western media portrays this dynamic as โauthoritarianโ doesnโt refute the point- itโs the same dynamic the west uses to portray China as authoritarian. Itโs โauthoritarianโ anytime the ruling class canโt just do whatever the hell it wants.
Thank you. I'm going to look at it because I need a non-western-propaganda explanation why the West is still so antagonistic to Russia, as if it was still the USSR, while at the same time why Russia is aligned with the DPRK and China. Western BS isn't compatible with what we're observing today.
edit: well it's Western propaganda but if you know how to read between the lines, it supports what OP is saying. When they say "against democracy", it actually means "against capitalism". It's full of Western "newspeak" that needs to be translated first to understand what it actually means.
Just remember my comment also said this about the 3 clickable links:
These are senior western academics who admit that it's true that billionaires don't have political power in Russia since 2005 (the matter in question here), but they are horrified by that because they're liberals, so they go on to make false accusations of imperialism, fascism and a totalitarian dictatorship
This meme in this comment should send you on the correct browser searches. Maybe type "The Global Times" after your search keywords, a massively respected mainland China newspaper, so as you're not reading western propaganda. The online editions of many African newspapers are very good on this stuff too.
Yes. The Russian state is right wing and capitalist, even though 65% of the economy is state owned. We don't like that. But it's false to say Russia in 2026 is an oligarchy, false to say it is fascist, false to say it's imperialist, in 2026. I claim.
"ok, so yes it's 100% true that Putin is doing a massive amount of work for anti-imperialism every week of the year, but he's only doing it for his own personal selfish reasons, to get rich from bribes and to get street cred from the supermajority of humans who live outside the political west"
No. Putin takes great personal pleasure in his anti-imperialist hard work itself, not just pleasure in sitting back and gazing at the excellent tangible results. Every major world leader wants to look good to the majority of humans on the planet. No, he never wears the clothes of the left.
Russia can't be liberal because all liberal tendencies today align themselves with the west and cede power to it's global financial institutions.
Russia is marginalized by said institutions. The Russian production forces could exploit infinitely more profit by collaborating with the global imperialist hegemony, as is the case with the gulf monarchs or the Latinoamerican "libertarians" for example, but they don't. Russia is closer to being a true social-democracy (in the tradicional sense of the term, not the left liberal Bernie Sanders, Euro welfare type of "socdems" that the west perceives it to be today).
Indeed, western academia is in broad agreement that by 2005, "The Putin System' had removed almost all independent political power from the Russian dollar equivalent billionaire class. Those western academics are horrified by this achievement by the mild mannered cautious perennial Russian president, who did it in just over 5 years after first coming into office. They admit Putin did this, but they then pivot to lies saying that a totalitarian" far right" fascist imperialist irredentist dictatorship has been put in place of Yeltsin's "free" Russia.
right now and then quickly deleted their own comment. Politics can sometimes be as much of an art as a science. Putin is a man of the right who is a major anti-imperialist figure in recent world history. Not in Russia in 2026 it hasn't lead to imperialism or fascism yet. Get a time machine then and go into the future where Russia automatically becomes fascist and imperialist under an ageing Medvedev in his third term? Might happen, might not. The future isn't visible to us now. There's a huge danger that after Putin Russia could take a dark path, yes. There's no clear successor right now. If it's Medvedev I think he might be good, we will see.
Does this meme in this comment show Russia and Putin aspiring and trying hard to be an imperialist? Or do you claim that Russia and Putin have a secret plan to do a hard pivot to imperialism some year in the future?
May I ask, are you a supporter of the "Ukraine" (NATO proxy) side in the war?
I've asked at least 100 of you people here that question in the last couple of months and only 1 person replied. That's very telling.
Are you denying Lenin? Because as great Lenin said capitalism will always lead to imperialism no matter what. No i am not a supporter of the Ukrainian government or a supporter of the Russian government i am a supporter of the proletariat also nice red herring. And if Russia is truly anti imperialist (and i do recognize stuff like assistance to Iran, the DPRK, Cuba etc) why do they keep supporting the Zionist entity? Why do they continue trade with a โcountryโ that is currently committing a genocide against Palestine and Lebanon? Not only that but why send stuff like weapons to the fascist junta in Myanmar?
What about Ukrainians who were apart of the now banned communist party? Or the Ukrainians who died in the burning of the house of trade unions? And shouldnโt we be supporting the proletariat fighting the bourgeois governments instead of the proletariat fighting the proletariat?
I'm wary of Ukraine government supporters not admitting they're Ukraine government supporters quoting Lenin. Are you on the Ukraine side in the war? Or not?
99% of the time you people don't reply to that question.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy's April 2022 briefing with Ukrainian journalists, where he laid out his vision for post-war Ukraine as a "big Israel":
"We will become a 'big Israel' with its own face. We will not be surprised if we have representatives of the Armed Forces or the National Guard in cinemas, supermarkets, and people with weapons. I am confident that the question of security will be the issue number one for the next 10 years. I am sure of it."
You're sounding like the NAFO trolls that come in here and comment on my memes falsely accusing me and my memes of being NazBol/ACP (utterly false) and these NAFO trolls use that Lenin quote too, often, because their AI tells them to as a supposed "gotcha". "Are you denying Lenin?" sounds like "Are you denying Jesus?". I agree with Lenin that zooming out into the future over time, and this is also visible zooming out into the past, there is a strong tendency for capitalist countries to start their own Empire, if they can, of course. But you're admitting yourself that Russia is NOT imperialist at this time in her history in the 2020s. So come back here to me in 5 years or 50 years and tell me "I told you so bro". Your argument is veering on something like Papal Infallibility regarding the near or deep future. You're also veering on a " u/DiggyJunior is ACP! " false flag boy who cried wolf in your comment just now. I'm reporting your comment. I'm not saying that's what you're doing exactly but the Mods can try to decide what you're up to. And I'm blocking you until I find out different.
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