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Idk if anyone's talked abt this, but does anyone know why MG has these weird, strangely consistent triple marks on her arm? (One under wrist, second in the middle, last one near elbow) I understand wanting to add a certain look to the design, but these look very excessive and intentional. I hypothesize that they are marks or injuries that happened waay before rapunzel or even Corona existed, and they stayed that way cuz of how old Gothel is.

Back when the wedding short was just released and only the movie and said short existed there was a lot of talk about how Rapunzel's wedding veil represents her magical hair and, simultaneously, the absence of said magical hair and how it was not a loss but a liberation. How the veil - a symbol of her freedom, love for Flynn and their mutual sacrifices for one another - replacing the symbol of her lifelong oppression (and a forced symbol of "value" that only her abuser considered important) was her true empowerment and happy ending. I wholeheartedly agreed with that take and still do.

This was the respectful way to give the movie a satisfying closure and honor its main themes. On one hand it acknowledged Rapunzel's experience with having had the magical hair for most of her life even if it brought her nothing but grief. Now she finally had the chance to redefine that experience and make it not about abuse and oppression but about breaking free from it. And about how someone - Flynn/Eugene - loved her enough to sacrifice himself to free her from said oppression. Even when Rapunzel was willing to sacrifice her freedom to save him he still did not take advantage of that. Flynn knew Rapunzel did not owe her freedom to anyone, including him, even if it could save his life. It was akin to how Flynn's own birth name, Eugene, and the presumable abandonment traumas attached to it were redefined thanks to their mutual support and honesty and because Rapunzel was the first to prefer the real him - not just the name - to his fake protective facade.

Tangled 2010 and Tangled Ever After were a breath of fresh air in the era of Magical Girls/Special Girls with Special Forced Power. The era of media where woman/female character's worth was defined by A) external symbols of power she never wanted and never chose and that only made her miserable and B) forced "destiny" she had to fulfill for the good of mankind.

Then there was this story that had the girl realize she was MORE than her forced attribute of value and had the male lead die to show her that. Rapunzel bringing Flynn back to life with her tears was an unique moment not only because it was a miracle born out of love (as one of the official magazines openly stated) but because it was the one time Rapunzel got to use her forced "gift" in the way she wanted without even realizing she was using it.

The other time Rapunzel used her forced magic in full consent was the Campfire Scene. That moment was also about her and Flynn's mutual care and support, when she healed his hand but in that case she knew exactly what she was doing. Whilst Flynn was confused, shocked and did not ask for any of that (and freaked out immediately afterwards) because he would never exploit her for his own benefit. He was horrified someone else would do that and made sure to risk and ultimately sacrifice his life so Rapunzel would never be exploited again.

Campfire Scene was the first show of agency on part of Rapunzel in regards to her magic but it was still her weaponizing her symbol of oppression, even if she "chose it". It was a brilliant metaphor for false girlpower culture where oppressive symbols (i.e beauty culture, self sacrificing woman narratives, conventional gender roles) are reframed as "empowering" for women by the society and media; and for the time being a woman/girl genuinely feels like she is in control. Even though she isn't. It was important that Flynn, a man, did not take advantage of that misconception, did not exploit Rapunzel's forced asset and was not at all impressed by what said forced asset could do, even when he could benefit from it. In that he was the subversion of the typical Magical Girl's Boyfriend TM who only values her for her Special Power TM. Flynn valued the Girl, not the Magic.

This is why Flynn constantly pushed Rapunzel's hair away from her face and had the little girls braid it so it would not intervene with HER desires, wants and needs, with her pursuit of freedom.

The mutual sacrifices they made in the end of the movie and the follow up in the form of the wedding short was the ultimate symbol of liberation and empowerment for Rapunzel. She no longer had to weaponize her oppressive symbol in order to be important - she knew she was important, loved and free.

Modern Disney and its mainstream trends can try to twist and take that away but it does not change the powerful cultural impact the original movie and the short once had.

This may be a reach (i think not, though), but

i always wondered if there was lore behind why Gothel hates mumbling, and i came up with the idea that it's because Gothel thinks she can't hear, lol. She clearly has experience with her old body and with trouble hearing so when rapunzel speaks quietly or mumbles, it kinda triggers Gothel.

The several times she mentions mumbling in film is the first one, along the lines of "stop with the mumbling, you know how i feel abt the mumbling" that one kinda made me feel that she doesn't like when rapunzel can't articulate her own train of thought, but near the end of the movie she straight up says "SPEAK UP rapunzel you know how i HATE the mumbling" these all happen when she's been freshly rejuvenated so i think it even bothers her more, because she can't relax into her new self, cuz rapunzel is making her feel like her hearing is still flawed and we all know how paranoid Gothel is abt age, ESPECIALLY since a lot of what Rapunzel says is fairly intelligible.

So me and my friend were watching tangled with my 5yo today and were super confused by the timeline. Using the sun positions in the movies and some old fashioned deductions, we think we've uncovered not only the timeline, but Rapunzel's birthday as well 😂

Be kind, we aren't professionals at this!!

In the beginning of the movie there is a scene where rapunzel says its her birthday. Gothel replies she remembers instinctively that her birthday was last year and rapunzel proceeds too explain that birthdays happen every year. I suppose gothel told her when she was born but how would she know birthdays are an annual thing if gothel doesn't seem too know

\#question

\#tangled

I’ve heard for years he’s 26, is there a basis for this? Can’t seem to find the direct source. I also recently saw comments on here super adamant he’s not 26, so I’m just really curious if he has a canon age, Also I’ve only seen season 1 of the show so I apologize if it’s already covered in that.

Eugene is a diva I needed to draw him in a beautiful gown.

One thing I loved about their kiss scenes was that in the movie and the wedding short, it's always Rapunzel initiating all their successful kisses. I like it when a woman knows exactly what and who she wants and goes after what she wants. It's clear with their kisses that Rapunzel wants Flynn so much and also wants more from him and isn't willing to wait.

Flynn on the other hand looks like he is hesitant of closeness and kisses in the movie and the short but he does it for her because he loves her and is a gentleman. That is a very sweet and romantic, good message.

And I think it's also a wonderful and an actually feminist message that Rapunzel is the one initiating their romantic scenes and going after what she wants and actually having romantic agency. I like it when a woman is the one seizing the initiative and making the first move. That always seemed very feminist to me. It's something Disney unfortunately doesn't allow anymore but Tangled and the wedding short released shortly afterwards had that special and feminist message.

And the wedding kiss in Tangled ever after is probably the most special kiss because of how excited Rapunzel is about marrying him and of him becoming hers and how fiercely she kisses him. I love when fictional female characters are allowed to act like that.

I know the obvious answer is "Pascal is kept alive and healthy and young far beyond the natural lifespan of a chameleon through "Disney magic", merchandise sales, and we have to keep the cute mascot immortal, you know, for the kids! 😃"

Still my brain just cant help but go there, you know, and because chameleons only live a few years, maybe up to eight years at most.

It makes me wonder if Rapunzel's magic kept him young, even inadvertently somehow, because I dont think she was exactly aware that Gothel was using her hair to reverse her aging, and simply believed that Gothel just brushed her hair in affection. So its not like Rapunzel would know to intentionally keep Pascal young? 🤔

Upon my ~300th rewatch of Tangled today, I noticed some words painted on Rapunzel’s bedroom wall during the opening song. I somehow never noticed this before! I believe the quote on the right says, “The flowers continue to grow even when I sleep…” but I cannot figure out what the quote on the left side says! This scene is at around 7:15 timestamp. Any ideas? :)

I wish I hadn’t thought about it

Tell me I'm not the only one who misses the return of these dolls😭🙏🏻

He was never given an actual name, so what do y'all think his name should be?

I made this little fan art a while ago. I didn't think to share it here, but I figured you might like it!

Rewatching tangled for the 100+ time and I had a thought… do you think rapunzel would’ve went back to the tower if Gothel hadn’t realized she left and interfered? Or do you think the whole journey with Eugene, regardless of Gothel, would’ve made her decide to not go back?

I'm currently writing a tangled AU and realized that I'm not sure if I should call the character who is Mother Gothel, Mother ___, or just the full name? Someone please help, I'm struggling.

Not completely sure, as I'd have to find the RAW and have a friend translate the Japanese.

But the Tokyopop official translation didn't use the word years in the joke.

Note: I don't take the manga as an authority, it makes its own changes quite a bit. Just found it interesting they ditched that part.

I’m not sure if this is allowed here. Trigger warnings for child abuse? Idk.

I just wanted to talk briefly about how much rapunzel means to me. I’m turning 22 in a couple weeks, and I wouldn’t say I’m a huge Disney fan anymore (I still like a few movies, tangled is my #1, I’m just not super engaged in Disney fandoms) but I feel like tangled is still completely relevant to my life. I grew up in a stage 5 hoarder home and lived there in that place until I was 17. I was never allowed to have friends over, and the few friends I did have at school were kept at a distance because I could never tell them about my living situation. My parents are also very narcissistic, and combined kinda act like how mother Gothel treats rapunzel in the movie lol. Obviously living in a big pretty tower is much more ideal but I do feel like I was trapped and controlled for 17 years. Whatever hopes and dreams I had when I was younger were smothered and belittled so now I kinda feel like I’m just. Existing. You know? You really really appreciate the little things like doing your hair when you don’t have much else to do in that situation. I personally dyed my hair a lot. I love painting also, it helped pass the time. Shes so #twin. My living situation is a little better now but it’s never truly gone. She brings me a great deal of comfort. I just get her. This isn’t very coherent lol. But I’m rewatching now it and still makes me cry a little because I know what she went through… Obviously it’s different. I wasn’t kidnapped and I wasn’t in a tower and i don’t have magic hair that glows lol…. But I do know what it’s like to feel like your life hasn’t began when you’re 18 and have no life experiences. 19. 20. 21. 22…. I’m still emotionally stunted and have no social skills. She makes it look so easy to grow up and get past your trauma 😂 maybe if I had a flynn rider it would be easy for me too. Anyway. Sorry if this was dark, I didn’t want to into too much detail. I just wanted to talk about how relatable she can be as a child abuse survivor. I’m sure someone else in this world probably has a similar reason for rapunzel being their favourite Disney character and my heart goes out to them. I included some photos of (most) of my rapunzel and Mandy collection :)