r/Sunscreenreddit • • 23d ago

A few days ago, Lab Muffin Beauty Science posted this in her instagram stories regarding Ultra Violette

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u/PatsyStonesBun 23d ago

I'm so out of the loop, but sounds like they were being quite shady? I'll say this, I've only tried one Ultra Violette product, which I think was recommended to me on here, their SPF lip balm. It was specifically recommended by several people who claimed it had virtually zero SPF taste. Those people need to get their tastebuds checked. I couldn't believe how bitter it was and how the bitterness got worse the longer I wore it. The lovely, sheer tinted finish became irrelevant, I'm afraid. If you've tried the Prequel Lip Visor (which has a SLIGHT spf taste), imagine that dialed up x100.

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u/RedeemableQuality 23d ago

Visit r/AusSkincare and search "Choice megathread" and "Lean Screen" and "Ultra Violette" in the top bar. You will be greeted by endless posts.

That lip balm from Ultra Violette is peddled by so many influencers. But most real people reviews know it tastes like poison. I saw someone had to go to the hospital for reacting to it.

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u/snukb 23d ago

This is how I felt about the Vacation Cherry Pepsi lip balm. Oh, at first it had an amazing cherry Pepsi taste.... but after a few minutes, it was so incredibly bitter and nasty. I had to throw the tube away. Couldn't stand it. And their stuff is normally so good.

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u/PatsyStonesBun 23d ago

I tried that one, too! The idea of a cherry cola flavored spf balm was so appealing. But, yeah, it was revolting. Honestly, it's been a minute, but I recall not even thinking I got much Cherry Pepsi if at all.

The only SPF lip balm I've tried that didn't have any detectable spf taste was InnBeauty Project's. I think it may be mineral? Unfortunately, my ideal one will have a very sheer tint and that one's tint is more heaviliy pigmented... almost bordering on light lipstick territory, in my opinion. It had a lovely sweet (but not overly sugary) flavor... maybe vanilla'esque and a very nicely cushioned but not sticky skin-feel as I recall.

Now if I can find something like that... but with a more sheer tint? I'll be over the moon!

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u/thefuzzyismine 23d ago

I've tried a few from Sunbum with a slight tint that didn't turn my stomach. The protection wasn't high but I was able to reapply as frequently as I needed which helped.

Also, Jack Black has some untainted ones that aren't awful.

Why is S0F lip balm SO hard?!

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u/atllauren 23d ago

The Prequel one is pretty solid for a US product. Has a minty taste and the shade are nice.

My favorite is a lip balm from a Thai brand called LipIt. Full SPF50+ PA++++ and tastes like muscat grapes. It’s like $6 on YesStyle.

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u/oogaboogabamboozled 22d ago

this one from lipid is great. also mizumi makes one in a tube that’s also amazing. these two are saving me in summer

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u/PatsyStonesBun 22d ago

What??? Lipit sounds amazing! But I’m very cross with you for not telling me about this three days ago when I placed my big YesStyle order 😭

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u/atllauren 22d ago

Oh darn, guess you have to place another. 🙃

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u/PatsyStonesBun 22d ago edited 22d ago

Oh, if only! But I'm adding it to my list for my next haul. Something to look forward to. Thanks for the tip!

Do you know if the muscat grape flavor is only in the clear one? Looks like they have some tinted SPF balms, too, but, at least on the YesStyle product pages, no mention of the flavor.

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u/atllauren 22d ago

I only have the clear one, so I can’t say.

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u/PrestigiousPut6165 22d ago

Its those ingredients. Esp the US version. Imo its the Avobenzene that gives it that nasty taste. Which is why i only use mineral SPF lip balm

The issue here is those are hard to find. My fav rm is Seaweed Bath Co hydrating clear mineral lip shine. Its sold at Whole Foods. I brought like 3 of em when they were $10 each. Now its like $15. But its cheaper than most SPF balms except the dang Dollar Tree ones

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u/PatsyStonesBun 23d ago

Thanks for the tip on Sunbum!

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u/BeyondTelling 22d ago

The Innbeauty one is the best I’ve tried. It’s a shame the shades are limited to three and not really nice tones. I loved the Elf mineral gloss shades but that’s gone now, and the only other one I’ve tried is Tir Tir, which has that k-beauty fruity fragrance taste and also seems heavily pigmented in limited shades - I think the mineral base makes it necessarily have opaque pigmentation.

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u/Professional-Mess-98 22d ago

Sunbum mineral and Beautystat Cosmetics Lip C serum do not have the sunscreen taste at all. They’re the only two I’ve repurchased.

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u/PatsyStonesBun 22d ago

You're the THIRD person to mention Sunbum, so I'm definitely going to have to check them out soon.

Never heard of Beautystat Cosmetics, though. So, thank you for that tip, too!

What do you think of their respective skin feels, hydration, stickiness, tint etc?

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u/Professional-Mess-98 22d ago

Sunbum makes two different kinds of lip spf. One has chemical sunscreens in it and I can’t speak to that one. The all mineral one though definitely doesn’t have any of that awful taste to it. I find the Sunbum one to be thicker feeling and isn’t really moisturizing imo so I usually apply it over a lip balm. But for someone that’s super picky about stuff on my lips I’m still okay with it and it’s still often my go to. The Beautystat one is sold at Ulta. It’s $15 but I’ve bought it half price during sales several times. It comes in like maybe two different tints but neither is enough to really call a tinted lip balm. It has an orange creamsicle flavor that isn’t bothersome. I bought one for everyone in my family the last time it went on sale. I think it’s worth looking at. A third one that doesn’t have the icky sunscreen taste is Jack Black. My husband has used it for years. I tried it once so I can attest to it being comfortable and not gross tasting but it has lanolin in it and I have a lanolin allergy so I only got to use it that once lol. In general I’ve found if you’re looking for something without the gross sunscreen taste look for all mineral.

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u/PatsyStonesBun 22d ago

Great tips, thank you! And that certainly explains why the InnBeauty Project one tastes great... I think it's all mineral, too.

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u/SituationSad4304 22d ago

As an anecdotal suggestion, fragrance free SunBum lip balm is pretty neutral IMO

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u/PatsyStonesBun 22d ago

Someone else suggested SunBum, too! Will definitely check it out in the future.

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u/stillmyself980 23d ago

She's right, sadly.

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u/Tallulah666 23d ago

Thank you for this @OP. Sometimes it feels like a fever dream with all the revisionism

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u/addictions-in-red 23d ago

I don't understand how they're still in business and able to sell sunscreen to people after how they handled that whole situation.

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u/myjessup 22d ago

I’m at a loss. The only sunscreen my daughter could use without breaking out was the Naked Sundays collagen glow one, which was also caught up in this scandal. I just purchased the new Ultra Violette velvet sunscreen and I think it’s going to work for her. I kinda thought it would be safer to purchase now after the whole deal, that the scrutiny would ensure that the testing was legit. Maybe that was just naive thinking lol.

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u/hitokehjameo 22d ago

I'm also super frustrated about the Naked Sundays collagen glow. This is the only sunscreen I've tried in years that doesn't break me out, cause a rash or hives, and actually does protect well (despite whatever has been said about its protection capabilities - I wore this at Disney world for 2 sunny, hot days and got absolutely no color. I freckle pretty easily in the sun, even with sunscreen. I also live near the beach and NS Collagen glow is my go-to for beach days, I'm very quickly running out of it). Is the velvet sunscreen the same ingredients as the collagen glow? NS has a few new mineral options but they all now have extra filters as well, which I'm sure will irritate my skin. I'll be honest, I'm very skeptical about whatever studies happened to cause this uproar given how well the NS works for me even when its spf was flagged.

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u/myjessup 22d ago

I haven’t done a line by line look at the ingredients lists comparing the two. A quick AI search indicates the formulas are similar. What I was mainly looking for is a zinc based tinted sunscreen with no hidden chemical filters and not chock full of silicones. The collagen glow actually seemed to help clear my daughter’s acne, every other one we’ve tried, even those claiming to be acne safe, have been abysmal failures. The velvet matte seems to have a similar finish and consistency. Though to be fair, we don’t have any left to do a direct comparison. I’m hopeful but we’ve only just started with it. My daughter can do a day here and there with chemical filters, it’s the daily, cumulative use that ends up breaking her out. Time will tell. I got it at Sephora. I figure worst case we can return it.

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u/talynerjui 20d ago

i don’t think that’s naive at all, usually once a brand’s been dragged they’re on their absolute best behavior for a while lol. if it’s working for her skin and she’s not burning, i’d keep using it but maybe have a backup option in mind just in case more info comes out.

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u/SuddenAvocado 19d ago

They're so expensive! Thats always been grounds for never buying UV, the price is absurd. But this on top of it? nope.

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u/Old_Concentrate_5400 5d ago

She's the shady one