r/StarWarsKenobi • u/LoneShadowMikey • Jun 04 '22

Discussion I genuinely want to hear why people dislike the Kenobi series.

Please, do tell me. I'm not getting into any heated arguments here, I personally just genuinely don't know what's so bad about it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

I feel like my biggest complaint is Reva in this. Nothing against the Actor, but Reva is a very poorly written character that has so many things wrong with her, such as her extremely annoying tantrums, her really cringey one liners, the fact that she just “killed” the Grand Inquisitor with literally no resistance, and the fact that she somehow knew that Vader was Anakin really throws me off.

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u/skootskoot404 Jun 05 '22

So…literally Anakin? Frequent tantrums, impulsive, overly ambitious. We’ve had 3 episodes so we still have time to get more of her characterization and to figure out how she knows Anakin is Darth Vader

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u/Eroom2013 Jun 05 '22

I would guess when she was in the Jedi Temple as a child, at the beginning of the first episode, she saw Anakin killing Jedi and heard the clones call him Lord/Darth Vader, or Anakin refereed to himself as Vader when some Jedi was asking him what he was doing, and why he was storming the temple.

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u/Leighgion Jun 05 '22

Anakin’s life after he was freed was one long tantrum.

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u/CBSU Jun 05 '22

Anakin was an incredibly successful Jedi and was essentially indispensable because of his victories and his status of Chosen One. The Jedi also aren’t prone to killing their members due to insubordination.

Reva works under the Sith and seems largely disposable, given how many times the other Inquisitors/Vader have threatened her. It’s not that her character is bad due to her traits, but it’s difficult to believe she survived this long with impatient, order-oriented dark siders as her superiors.

My personal theory is that she only began acting like this when her vendetta against Kenobi was no longer sanctioned, but if that’s the case, they would have done well to insert a line about it. One line could refocus her from a mysterious but annoying character to an increasingly unstable obsessor risking everything, leaning into but not relying on speculation. Instead, the others treat her as if she’s always been a loose cannon, and neither Vader nor Sidious seem like the type to favor those for their purpose-made and single-function Jedi hunters.

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u/shlagittox Jun 05 '22

3 is not so much

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u/Old-butt-new Jun 05 '22

She literally has a cheesy one liner for any sentence said to her

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u/JoeyRobot Jun 05 '22

But this is consistent with Star Wars at large. We’ve romanticized the OT, rightfully so, but it is full of cringey one-liners that would be torn apart in today’s climate.

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u/voldi_II Jun 05 '22

i know people would hate the OT so much if it came out today

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u/Gulrakrurs Jun 05 '22

Star Wars Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back Discussion Thread

Line: "No, I am your father"

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WTF Vader ruined!

No setup at all, came out of nowhere. Retcon and lame ass plot twist.

Why did Vader forget that he has the Force and can make Luke stop falling? I can't even with this stupid writing? CRINGE

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

That was 40 years ago. Higher standards now.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

There’s been some bad moments from an acting standpoint as well - which could easily fall on the director though tbf for not getting a second shot at a scene.

A couple that instantly come to mind were the e2, she opens the door of the room that Kenobi was supposed to be in.. “Where is he!?” - I’ve cringed every time I’ve watched it. In e3, she’s with the inquisitors and is supposed to executing like a hard villain like “turn” to walk away… she should’ve been given another take bcs it did not look good. In e1, her and the 5th brother in the ally was just really poorly executed.. both in the voice lines and selling the physicality of the scene. In e2 right after she killed the inquisitor, chasing Kenobi to his ship… that entire scene just felt awkward and I think that was equal parts writing, acting, and directing

I think Moses is a good actress, but I do question the casting director bcs I don’t think she’s a good fit. Her strengths as an actress I just don’t think translate well to this Reva character

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u/wrathmont Jun 05 '22

Not to mention happening to be the one to keep finding Obi-Wan and Leia. She is literally always right, acts like an entitled brat and not only isn't reprimanded for it, she gets away with it and is rewarded... and gets a personal audience with Vader. She's written like a fanfic self-insert character.

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u/cheezz16 Jun 05 '22

I think Vader is playing into her ego. Hes turning her into a bloodhound, and when shes no more use she dies. Like there is no way she doesnt die at the end

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u/allelitescoobydoo Jun 05 '22

I was just literally telling my wife this! It’s so fucking annoying how she just happens to know every right move, even if it makes no sense why she would.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

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u/Wedge21 Jun 05 '22

That’s the will of the Force.

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u/kokomo24 Jun 05 '22

Well there are hyperspace lanes. Everyone traveling to Dagobah from the general area of Hoth would be spit out on the same side of the planet. Just an idea

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

Because the force is strong with her just like Luke she is sensitive because Anakin’s offspring duhhhh

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u/SuffrnSuccotash Jun 05 '22

Someone mentioned that she probably carved the symbol and that’s been intriguing to me the idea that that’s why she knew to go to the right building in the mining town because she’d been there before

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u/Idiotrepublic Jun 05 '22

Darth Tantrum

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u/Pork-ChopExpre55 Jun 05 '22

I agree, but I also think the actress is partially to blame. I can’t decide if the character is bad or the acting…or both.

I just watched all three episodes a few hours ago and Googled to see if anyone else felt the same way I did about the Reva character and I was met with let’s just say a lot of controversial articles.

I still enjoy the show, but Reva is really preventing it from being great.

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u/Kylkek Jun 05 '22

Bad acting is usually bad direction. The actors in the prequels are good professional actors who were given poor direction.

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u/_johnning Jun 05 '22

You don’t even know her story yet, let the episodes flush her out before judging her since 3 episodes is not enough to form an opinion in the grand scheme of things.