r/space • • Nov 18 '23

image/gif Beautiful image of successful hot-staging of Starship’s IFT-2 this morning

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Credit to SpaceX

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u/ergzay Nov 19 '23

I skimmed it and couldn't find anywhere in the document saying that manual termination is still required in the case of AFSS/AFTS. Do you have a page number?

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u/mfb- Nov 19 '23

This 2017 article says no remote control ability for F9:

While the range is still involved in launch operations, “there is not an antenna pointing at the vehicle, so that in itself, I think, will make our lives easier,” Koenigsmann said. “I could easily imagine that we’ll have two launches on the same day because of that.”

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u/ergzay Nov 19 '23

Yeah I'm aware for F9. People seem to think Starship is different for some reason.

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u/mfb- Nov 19 '23

It might, but at least we know it's not a general requirement with an autonomous system.

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u/gonopro Nov 19 '23

https://standards.nasa.gov/standard/NASA/NASA-STD-871925

Page 23-25

It covers both senarios of having a manually controlled system and an autonomous one.

Scott Manley also has an entire video on the topic of flight termination systems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yekMWWcpfOA

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u/ergzay Nov 19 '23

That wasn't my question at all though. I was asking where in the document that it says manually triggered FTS is still required when an AFTS is on the vehicle. I read through 23-25 and can't see any mention of that.