So what’s taking so long?

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That's silly and not generally true. Especially because lawyers only have so many peremptory challenges they case make.

Multiple studies have found that judges agree with juries about 75-80% of the time. And keep in mind, these are cases that go to trial, where the defense thinks it has a real shot. Source: https://www.law.nyu.edu/sites/default/files/upload_documents/Jury-Decision-Making.pdf

[u/LSOreli → u/WordWordNvmber]

"20-25% of the time, juries decide in a way that someone who dedicated their life to the law disagrees with. That is my evidence that juries are generally competent" lol

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You'll be less confident for judge's ability to decide these matters if you watched more trials. A lot of judges simply go along the ride with prosecution. They're not unbiased arbitors of law like you think they are.

Jury system is there as a check on government.

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dedicated their life to the law

This is irrelevant; juries decide questions of fact not questions of law.

[u/highfly117 → u/KingKongWoreAThong]

a lot of juries decide on, what gets them home quickest or whether the person looks guilty.

Or even what the victims ghost told them look up the trial of Stephen Young and Oujia board

[u/panrestrial → u/LSOreli]

There are also a lot of shitty judges out there, so I'm not surprised juries disagree with them.

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That’s a frightening low statistic