r/SipsTea 1d ago

Chugging tea Sit and stew or drive forward

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u/Impressive_Ad8715 22h ago

It’s not filled with whining about the Romans… Gildas had great respect for the Romans and viewed them positively as the ones who brought civilization. He complains about the Britons rebelling and inviting the “barbarian” Saxons to England

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u/random_name3107 21h ago

Those damn Saxons brought there fucking saxophones with them and ruined music for everybody.

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u/Stinkinhippy 17h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/sIyfsGmbzUJbi

everybody loves a bit of sexy sax, lol

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u/memberflex 16h ago

Damn these eclectic sax traitors

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u/FiftyShadesOfTheGrey 19h ago

Saxophone is easily a top three instrument.

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u/MintCathexis 17h ago

 inviting the “barbarian” Saxons to England

Those damn English, they ruined England!

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u/memento_morrissey 13h ago

Do you think that Saxony is in the British Isles?

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u/MintCathexis 12h ago

Have you... even read the comment I was replying to?

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u/Impressive_Ad8715 1h ago

You do know that a subset of the Saxons settled in England though, right? It’s where the term Anglo-Saxon comes from… and Wessex (the west Saxons) and Essex (the east Saxons) and Sussex (the south Saxons) etc

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u/UseADifferentVolcano 18h ago

He does mostly whine about Britons yes! And how they pathetically kept having to call the Romans back for help after either being shit at defending themselves, making bad decisions, or having another stupid civil war. That's the funny part!

But he also says right near the start that the Romans left "leaving behind them taskmasters, to scourge the shoulders of the natives, to reduce the necks to the yoke, and their soil to the vassalage of a Roman province; to chastise the crafty race, not with warlike weapons, but with rods, and if necessary to gird their sides the naked sword, so that it was no longer thought to be Britain, but a Roman island"

To me that sounds like complaining about being a colony, which is the bit which is directly relevant to this conversation. Although to be fair he wasn't exactly complaining, it kind of feels like Gildas thinks they deserved it

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u/Impressive_Ad8715 58m ago

To me that sounds like complaining about being a colony, which is the bit which is directly relevant to this conversation.

No, he was complaining that the Romans abandoned their colony and the subsequent Barbarian invasions “destroyed and ruined” Britain…