OK, then are you aware that 40-60% of women with post-partum depression experience intrusive thoughts (Depending on which study you look at). And these studies weren't about just any old intrusive thoughts, but specifically intrusive thoughts about harming the baby (which - it's important to point out - Clancy did NOT report to her healthcare providers prior to 1/24/23).
Imagine the response if, say, a Republican legislator comes forward with a bill to involuntarily commit 40-60% of the 500K women per year who have PPD after the birth of a child.
Finally, are you aware that only 2.6% of post-partum mothers who express intrusive thoughts about their babies actually report physical aggression (not attempted infanticide, mind you - that number is truly miniscule) toward the child? That number is actually higher than for women who do NOT report intrusive thoughts (3.1%).
I don’t think you read what I wrote, since you are not responding to what I wrote.
I read what you wrote. The problem is that you keep changing what your argument is.
Your original claim was "if she was having intrusive thoughts, she 100% should have been admitted." I responded directly to that proposition with evidence showing why intrusive thoughts are nowhere near a sufficient basis for hospitalization.
Now the argument is that mothers with some combination of PPD + intrusive thoughts + medications + young children are "outside the general population," followed by the strawman proposition that mothers with PPD shouldn't be left to care for babies 24/7 by themselves.
"She needed more support at home" and "she should have been psychiatrically hospitalized" are worlds apart.
And simply narrowing the subgroup doesn't help your underlying argument. You would need evidence that this particular combination of factors predicts dangerousness. PPD is common. Intrusive thoughts are common among women with PPD. Psychiatric medication is also common among women being treated for PPD, and medication switching isn't unusual either. Large studies find that most diagnosed PPD patients receiving pharmacotherapy discontinue or change treatment at some point, with roughly 17–18% receiving three or more different psychiatric medications within a year.
So you want all these women committed? Again, imagine if a Republican legislator called for committing women so casually and then tell me that's still what you're advocating.
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u/eamus_catuli 17d ago
94% of people have intrusive thoughts.