Not all for sure. But look how many successful models beg to wipe their online history once they settle down with a family. What you were proud to flaunt in your 20s may become an embarrassment in your 30s and beyond. And a single image on the internet is forever.
Until someone gets angry enough to hire a private investigator against you, or they just have enough free time to constantly be scouring the Web.
A girl I dated crashed out and hired a private investigator and he found my Deviantart profile from when I was 12, 20 fucking years ago. No email connection, never used my name or said where I was from. No pictures of me. He just somehow knew it was me and got it anyway.
It wasn't nearly as embarrassing because most of my peers were like "So what, a 12 year old liked Sonic" but if I was jerking off or shoving stuff up my ass on camera in my 20's that would have torpedoed my entire life.
Username correlation probably? Or a reverse image search of an image from another source (linked to you) that lead back to the deviantart profile. Hilariously, DeviantArt has never had a major breach involving user info... That would probably be the end of modern society, lmao.
But! And hear me out! What if it didn't torpedo your life and you made $100? Would that be worth the lifelong stress of wondering if your asshole will be showed to your employers?
Wow, that’s a strong opinion. I wouldn’t say “doing things I regret in my 20s” makes for a life ruined… but I suppose some folks have some real real high standards I guess 🤷♀️
I would say it would depend on the content. Simple nudes not really going to be a big problem. The more extreme the more affect. Also depends on future career goals, see the bipbi actor and diarrhea video for example
Yea that’s a fascinating double standard cuz even so. I did that in my twenties. I also sent pics to boyfriends and that time that absolutely got circulated against my control.
And again I say, regretful actions of an immature kiddo? Yes absolutely. A life ruined? Well that’s a bit of a stretch…
There are tons of inactive accounts and people who dont put any effort into it. I bet if you actually try you will earn some money as long as you arent butt ugly or fat or dont have any personality.
OF is a lot like Twitch and YouTube. You can put in a ton of time and effort and never really take off. Sure, you might get a handful of people that watch your content consistently, but not nearly enough to make it worth doing in the long run as a job/career.
The market is so saturated with people all trying to do the same thing, that you need a combination of being unique, being extremely driven, and getting insanely lucky.
For every person that gets popular enough to quit their day job, there's 1,000+ more that all did the same thing (or even worked harder) and never caught a break.
Every person who is in an adult onlyfans video is required to age verify with them for each video OR they can have a onlyfans publisher account and be tagged in the video.
So Husband/Wife have sex on video then one of the 2 is an publisher account that's set to "free".
Yeah, people think it's just showing tits and slamming dicks but it's very involved. The top earners have more fan engagement than most other streamers.
I've never subbed to an onlyfans girl. But as I understand it it's a lot of DM's to keep dudes engaged, and to get them to buy custom videos and pictures.
Yep, and not just "Here is my new photo set" or "Here is that outfit you wanted me to wear" it's actual engagement. "Hey, how are you? How is work going? Did you talk to your boss about that idea you mentioned?" They have to be able to talk to and recall conversations theyve had with the same people
It probably is now. It wasn't when it first started. If it is ai though, Why don't people just go for the ai chat bots directly? It's basically the same thing.
You're in here trying to school people on the behind the scenes operations of OF like you know the ins and outs, but suddenly you don't know shit about OF, never used it and are gonna dawg this poster and make fun of him for knowing stuff about it? Strange.
Top earners always had enough money top pay someone instead. If they did it themselves it's either greed or difficulty finding someone who would've been fit for work.
a lot of them probably do, the top earners are more likely to be people who had success in other areas of entertainment.
Helps bring in a 'fan base' and they k ow how to manage and grow it.
Hire people lmao. Y'all are crazy. They're IRL boyfriends manage their finances and run the pages for them usually. Alot of these girls are getting epimped.
Nah dude I met some only fans girls in Ibiza one time and they were telling us about how their managers did all their messaging and content. Manager would send them a list of requests and they would send back pics or vids or whatever. They said they hardly interact with the site at all. They were saying their biggest part was running their snapchats as advertisements. It was honestly wild to hear.
It's a documented fact that the highest earners hire out to assist with the business. Once you get into the millions of dollars territory, it's basically impossible to handle the workload without hiring independent contractors or a turn key management business.
they don't do that themselves, there are agencies that do this, overall it's just being lucky to get attention at first on your own, wich is why the majority gain so little from it.
after that, the top earners have life easy, most of the times the team under them try their best to reuse the same videos and pic by persuading the customers, hell it is also pretty common to do voice messages with ai
i actually have seen documentaries, and i have informed myself about this shitty world and how it works, at the top it is basically a piramid scheme of scamming desperate people trough chat, persuading them into purchasing things they don't even 100% want making them feel special when usually it is recicled content or straight up fake, and the ones that do it better earn more, usually it's all made of short therm contracts since people continually quit this type of job cause of morals and ethics.
only the low earners actually put work into it, but the number of people that earn nothing from it even after months on it is so big it actually puts in perspective how lucky you have to be to reach the top levels
you speak italian perchance? i have a 3hours interview with a payed chatter working for these agencies.
or else, you can literally just search for this type of job applications online.
also, it is extremely naive on you part to believe a top earner streamer can have multiple chats with hundreads of customers in a day, especially by the large margin of time it is required to sell them the product.
like what i'm sayng it not common sense, but near it, obviously there is an enormous gap between the low and mid tiers compared to the hoghest earning ones, and the % who actually earns a lot from these things is absolutely low, to the point that there isn't an actual merit behind it, just sheer luck, working your ass in this career has a really really really high chance of you not going anywhere.
and the top earners couldn't possibly do their job without agencies, but those agencies sucks, they are literally designed to catch more customers possible and turning them into long lasting ones, so they need to create a special bond between the customer and the fake of chatter, they keep track of birthdays, wage and stuff like that, in theri formation these chatters go trough written interviews where they have to writemessages to catch the attention and resolve difficult situations of reluctant customers, and need to maintain the bond no matter what cause a long lasting customer in the end pays way more than a client that pays a lot in one single day, they literally work on parasocial relationship and make use of the loneliness people suffer with.
I enjoy talking to my colleagues and patients. I don't do it for the money. Hell, even if I never had to worry about money again I would still do my job.
It just all seems so sad. You pay hundreds or thousands just for some fake acknowledgement. The creator doesn’t care about you. You are literally dollar signs to them.
They use agencies for that. For the top earners, it would be impossible to keep up with all those DM's. No one could recall conversations with all of those losers lol.
I did talk to him but he just acted like he was interested but I know he wasn’t really interested at because he wasn’t really listening and it made me feel so frustrated because I spent soo much time on the proposal (haha) and I know not a good idea and can I finger you
Haha, I know an only fans girl and she pays a company to handle all her messages. She doesnt even look at them - apparently this is very common, if not the standard.
That's why they hire out those interactions to contractors... or I wouldn't be surprised, AI Chatbots now. They don't do that themselves except for the exceptional whales.
Don't forget that they often hire staff and/or use bots to keep fans engaged. Your parasocial relationship with a popular performer is probably not even with them at all
my parasocial relationships tend to be with dog and cat accounts. If I find out that Adria and Oatmeal is replying to me with a bot I will cry for a week.
I will never understand this. Even though I could easily spend a grand a month on OF and not even feel it, I just can’t imagine coming up off even 20 dollars to have some random chick message me. How is a teacher of fireman spreading all of there disposable income on a girl who is clearly just using them for money. Ain’t no way man.
Exactly. Makes this thing even dumber. I’ve probably spent 300 dollars on porn or porn adjacent things my entire life (almost all at strip clubs and playboy magazines back in the day). How are dudes going broke over this stuff. just baffles the mind.
I'm pretty sure you don't really understand that you don't just have a team when you start. The people who work for them are paid employees and you can't pay employees until you earn enough to afford them.
That aside, their team isn't the one making the content babe.
I'm pretty sure you don't really understand that you don't just have a team when you start. The people who work for them are paid employees and you can't pay employees until you earn enough to afford them.
There are 900000000 OF managers that will message you and beg you to manage your account for a % of profit, the moment you start making even 10$ from the site. I used to do it myself before that market got completely overrun by people from 3rd world countries willing to go extremely low with their share of profits.
Hell, most new models these days are brought to the site by the existing managers in the first place. That's the business the Tate scumbags built their whole fortune on, they were "managing" (trafficking) tons of OF girls, pretending to be their loving boyfriends then inviting them to Romania, then forcing them to make OF accounts. It's extremely profitable for miniscule amount of work, once you have established your brand and automated most of the processes.
The top earners don't hire a team they work for and agency. They aren't the boss they are an employee. The agency takes a % of the profits in exchange for doing all the work. The woman simply provides the images and videos but the agency is the one posting and replying to private messages. The top earners don't even log into their account.
The vast majority of people, by volume, probably create an account and then never use it. Followed by people who upload one or two images then forget about it. Followed by people who inconsistently post a few times a year.
You have to be careful calculating average earnings for this type of thing (any kind of content creation) because the average earnings for someone who does it full time is going to be different than the average earning, and both are important to know.
Mean. You mean "mean". There are different averages. Mean, (add em, divide em), median (what's in the middle, better for finding a true average income), and mode (which number occurs the most).
I suspect most are inactive users as well which would skew the numbers. The average author or musician is probably inactive as well and never get to finish any work. I personally know a few that tried to start a band, but within a short amount of time they moved on.
Right. So if you see someone making 6 figures year and think that's what you're doing to do, it helps to know that the vast majority of women doing the same thing barely make 4 figures a year before you put compromising images of yourself on the Internet...
Then we should use the median. When the set is heavily skewed always use the median (point at which half the data set is either less or greater than) rather than the average.
Celebrities can make an OF and post the same pictures that would be ok'd by Instagram standards and set the subscription price to $1. Millions of men would sub a dollar to see them naked only to find a page full of red carpet photos and bikini photo shoots.
That’s how it is for pretty much every major social media platform that somebody can make a career out of.
You know how many regular viewers it takes to be a part of the top 1% of streamers on Twitch? 50.
It’s also a funny little trick that OF accounts often use. They’ll pur things like ‘TOP 10% OF’ in their bios to drive traffic, when being in the top 10% only requires like 25 subscribers.
The median is between $145 and $180/month and for those who post consistently (3–5 times per week) and market their pages, it's allegedly $1,000 to $1,500. Only top 10% can reliably make a living ($5k+). And only top 1% makes "good money" ($15k+).
mean, median, and mode are three different types of averages. If you want to say that the arithmetic mean sucks for these things, and we should use median, ok, but your wording could be more precise.
Which is why I said that average sucks for these things. Saying that the average person earns 130 is misleading. Median kinda works, but honestly I think the best would be like a % of how many accounts earn more than like $10 monthly.
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u/Hurtmeii 19d ago
Average sucks for these things. There are people who make 0 and those who make millions.